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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Just FYI, Someone harvested our e-mails from the list :(
(Tom Jennings)
2. Re: Just FYI, Someone harvested our e-mails from the list
:( (Arfon)
3. Fwd: 1977 Gremlin (Ray Mick)
4. Re: Trans for 72 232 six (Mark Price)
5. Re: Just FYI, Someone harvested our e-mails from the list :(
(Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM)
6. Re: Trans for 72 232 six (Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM)
7. steering wheel hub (d stohler)
8. Re: someone harvested our emails fromt he list (Eddie Stakes)
9. Re: someone harvested our emails fromt he list (Mark Price)
10. Re: Trans for 72 232 six (Mark Price)
11. Primitive form of cylinder de-activation (Matt Haas)
12. Re: someone harvested our emails fromt he list (Tom Jennings)
13. Re: Trans for 72 232 six (Tom Jennings)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:38:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Just FYI, Someone harvested our e-mails from
the list :(
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611211027080.5964@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Arfon wrote:
> Subject: [AMC-List] Just FYI, Someone harvested our e-mails from the list :(
> Here was the spam's header-
That's a bummer!
I can assure you it was not from the amc-list.com
archives. How? That list below contains defunct email addresses
that are NOT in the current amc-list [I checked], and WERE in
the list we got from the old list software on Jim's system.
There still seems to be some confusion (not you, Arfon) about
how the list is arranged.
* There is the "AMC LIST" that arrives in your email inbox
as email.
* There is the AMXfiles archive that you read on the web at
www.AMXfiles.com
These two sites are TOTALLY DIFFERENT. AMC LIST runs on
industrial-strength mailserver code called Mailman on a
well-secured linux server.
The AMC LIST archives have all email addresses
obscured. For example, this month's archives kept
by Mailman (and it's partner program, pipermail):
http://www.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list/2006-November/thread.html
Note that no easily harvestable email addresses exist there.
www.AMXfiles.com however, leaves email addresses visible in the
archives, for example at http://www.amxfiles.com/archive/. I
have no control over that. That's Jim's software. Its really
nice, but was written back when the internet world was more
friendly and a lot less mean-spirited.
When we moved the AMC LIST from the old software, on another
system, to the more modern Mailman system, the apparent number
of AMC LIST members plummeted from 1200 to 600. This was because
half the list was bad or defunct email addresses! The new system
was able to determine this, and purged them out in the first
weeks of operation. (It also was able to revive good ones,
and we regained a few older list members!)
A half dozen or so in Arfon's example spam header were bad-purged
or no-longer-with-us addresses (some I didn't have to look up; I
remembered them from manual cleanup operations post-switchover).
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:58:40 -0600
From: Arfon <Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Just FYI, Someone harvested our e-mails from
the list :(
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20061121125835.02106288@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
AH! They harvested the addresses from the Archives! It's got both of the
addresses that I have used for the AMC list.
The bastards!
I use Eudora with pretty good filtering so it's not much worry for me.
YOU OUTLOOK GUYS:
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ is a freeware filter that has an Outlook
plugin that works pretty darned good if you want to cut down on your spam.
>On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Arfon wrote:
>
> > Subject: [AMC-List] Just FYI, Someone harvested our e-mails from the
> list :(
>
> > Here was the spam's header-
>
>That's a bummer!
>
>I can assure you it was not from the amc-list.com
>archives. How? That list below contains defunct email addresses
>that are NOT in the current amc-list [I checked], and WERE in
>the list we got from the old list software on Jim's system.
>
>There still seems to be some confusion (not you, Arfon) about
>how the list is arranged.
>
>* There is the "AMC LIST" that arrives in your email inbox
>as email.
>
>* There is the AMXfiles archive that you read on the web at
>www.AMXfiles.com
>
>These two sites are TOTALLY DIFFERENT. AMC LIST runs on
>industrial-strength mailserver code called Mailman on a
>well-secured linux server.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:59:33 -0600
From: Ray Mick <rmick@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fwd: 1977 Gremlin
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <4B45C623-CCE9-4E46-80F9-73050EDC80DE@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Tice, Gwen (SHB)" <GTICE@xxxxxxx>
> Date: November 21, 2006 10:24:43 AM CST
> To: rmick@xxxxxxx
> Subject: 1977 Gremlin
>
>
> Hello,
> I have a friend with a 77 Gremlin, he is looking to sell
> it. Problem is, he does not have internet access. Could you please
> give me a phone number so that I can have him contact you to get
> info. Or you can call him his number is (816) 305-1832. His name is
> David Knutter.
>
> Thanks for assisting,
>
> Gwen Tice
> Network Engineer
> Shook, Hardy & Bacon LLP
>
> Mail Gate made the following annotations on Tue Nov 21 2006 10:26:10
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message including attachments,
> if any, is intended for the person or entity to which it is
> addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material.
> Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is
> prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact
> the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original
> message. Thank you.
>
Ray Mick
Somewhere in Kansas
"The older I get the faster I was"
72 Javelin/AMX
72 Javelin R/W/B SST
71 Javelin
See my Javelin @
http://community.webshots.com/album/54361408pRyvWE
My RWB Javelin@ http://members.cox.net/jvlnnut/Site/My%20Space.html
Mid America AMC
www.midamericaamc.com
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:35:09 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Trans for 72 232 six
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "L. D. Lyons" <ldlyons@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <16186910.1164137709867.JavaMail.root@web27>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Where are you?
I've got a 73 904 that is free to good or any home!
60K on it, but I'd rebuild as it was slow to engage when I tried to move the car before I parted it out. May have just been low fluid level too as I could not check it well where the car was sitting on a slope.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- "L. D. Lyons" <ldlyons@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I am buying 232 engine out of 72 Gremlin to put in my 64 American, I will be needing an Automatic trans in good condition for this 232 engine. can anyone help me.
> Butch Lyons
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:05:49 -0600
From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Just FYI, Someone harvested our e-mails from
the list :(
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Arfon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
<092D8CF6635129428E9B66DC582C3B3D01B35F2A@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Arfon (and all), in the future please let Tom and I know of any
suspicious activity BEFORE posting directly on the list. Give us a
chance to investigate and see what's happened and if there is a fix
before alarming everyone -- maybe for no reason. Arfon, I know you're a
computer guy and can tell a lot by the header, but the average user
can't.
Unfortunately there's no way ANY publicly accessible system can be 100%
secure. The sad fact is hackers are getting smarter than protection
software. No matter how well protected any server is, someone can get in
if they try hard enough. Some people seem to have nothing better to do,
or just like the challenge a seemingly secure system presents. Some bozo
seems to enjoy shutting a Tandy Color Computer forum I check in on down
also. Until there are laws against it, there's nothing that can be done
to prevent such data thefts and spammers. Even if there were laws, most
couldn't be stopped. It's like speed limits -- no one really obeys them,
at least not regularly, unless they know cops hang out in the area --
and there are only so many cops.
Tom will be looking into this and find out how this happened and "plug
the hole" if possible. Don't panic!
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:08:10 -0600
From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Trans for 72 232 six
To: <ldlyons@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
<092D8CF6635129428E9B66DC582C3B3D01B35F30@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Butch, note that you can use ANY 1972-2006 AMC six cylinder transmission
as long as you use the flexplate and torque conveter made for that
trans. That includes the AW-4 used behind the 4.0L and lock-up converter
transmissions. You must use a lock-up converter with a lock-up
transmission unless the trans is internally modified though.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:44:12 -0800 (PST)
From: d stohler <das24rules@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] steering wheel hub
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20061121214413.92526.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
for the flat black hub adapter, instalation kit 3162 from grant fit on my 62 classic. had to modify the turn signal cam a little bit. i wasnt able to use the horn ring. i have an external button for the horn. if you want a billit aluminum it is 5162-1. hope this helps.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:14:37 -0600
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] someone harvested our emails fromt he list
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <01b801c70dc4$680a11f0$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Please my humble friend, Sir,
I am sorry for the embarrassment this mail might cause you, as we have not
met before. My name is Solomon Philip and my inbred sister Prisca Philip.
Our criminal father was a serving director of Agro- exporting board and a
very wealthy cocoa cripsies & fruity pebbles merchant until his death due to
me sending out bullsheet emails like this, as emails is our main export in
Abijan.
Before the death of my father by trampling of wild heard of nutrias he gave
me a Worthless Deposit Receipt that he deposited the sum of US$17.5 Million
Dollars in the Bank Of Scammers here in Abidjan- Cote d'Ivoire West Africa
which was made for the purchase of cocoa crispies & captian crunch
processing machine and development of another factory of fruit loops before
his untimely death due to the nutrias.
Being that this part of the country experiences political crises time
without number, especially no milk for cocoa crispies so we use dried maggot
and larvae, there is no guarantee of lives and properties in this cesspool
of a Country for this reasons we cannot invest this money here any long,
despite it has been our late father's industrial plans. He would have wanted
to add spy glass or secret decoder ring to box of cocoa crispies, big
investment.
Please we want you to do us a favour to receive this ficticious funds to a
unsafe account in your country as the beneficiary for onward investment, so
we can sell boxes of Quisp & Quake; I have plans to invest this money in
continuation with the scamming vision of our late father, who we bar-b-qued
after death, but not in this Country again rather in your country if you are
naive enough to believe this before all my email accounts shut down. I have
the narrow vision of going into real estate and industrial production
growing cocoa crispie trees and captian crunch bars. This is my reason for
contacting you via email, as this is most secret way of talking over
internet, sending to thousands of undisclosed recipients I harvest emails
from amc-list.
Please if you are willing to assist us indicate your interest in replying
soonest for more information. Of course there will be no way to contact you
since authorities shut down my email accounts and also president of email
said no more emails for me. So hurry and contact me if you interested in
fruity pebbles.
I am waiting anxiously for your urgent response and telephone call in my mud
hut. Here is more about me. Would you like to FedEx me a tasty box of
Crickets?
http://www.j-walk.com/other/conf/summary.htm
Here is family of farmers of cocoa crispies and fruity pebbles. My late
father is first man on upper left.
http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/
Thanks and
Best regards
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
Email is currently HEAVY
5-12 day reply times, call if important
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:39:44 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] someone harvested our emails fromt he list
To: Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <9639095.1164152384759.JavaMail.root@web31>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Me thinks Eddie's thong is too tight again!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Please my humble friend, Sir,
> I am sorry for the embarrassment this mail might cause you, as we have not
> met before. My name is Solomon Philip and my inbred sister Prisca Philip.
> Our criminal father was a serving director of Agro- exporting board and a
> very wealthy cocoa cripsies & fruity pebbles merchant until his death due to
> me sending out bullsheet emails like this, as emails is our main export in
> Abijan.
> Before the death of my father by trampling of wild heard of nutrias he gave
> me a Worthless Deposit Receipt that he deposited the sum of US$17.5 Million
> Dollars in the Bank Of Scammers here in Abidjan- Cote d'Ivoire West Africa
> which was made for the purchase of cocoa crispies & captian crunch
> processing machine and development of another factory of fruit loops before
> his untimely death due to the nutrias.
>
> Being that this part of the country experiences political crises time
> without number, especially no milk for cocoa crispies so we use dried maggot
> and larvae, there is no guarantee of lives and properties in this cesspool
> of a Country for this reasons we cannot invest this money here any long,
> despite it has been our late father's industrial plans. He would have wanted
> to add spy glass or secret decoder ring to box of cocoa crispies, big
> investment.
>
> Please we want you to do us a favour to receive this ficticious funds to a
> unsafe account in your country as the beneficiary for onward investment, so
> we can sell boxes of Quisp & Quake; I have plans to invest this money in
> continuation with the scamming vision of our late father, who we bar-b-qued
> after death, but not in this Country again rather in your country if you are
> naive enough to believe this before all my email accounts shut down. I have
> the narrow vision of going into real estate and industrial production
> growing cocoa crispie trees and captian crunch bars. This is my reason for
> contacting you via email, as this is most secret way of talking over
> internet, sending to thousands of undisclosed recipients I harvest emails
> from amc-list.
>
> Please if you are willing to assist us indicate your interest in replying
> soonest for more information. Of course there will be no way to contact you
> since authorities shut down my email accounts and also president of email
> said no more emails for me. So hurry and contact me if you interested in
> fruity pebbles.
>
> I am waiting anxiously for your urgent response and telephone call in my mud
> hut. Here is more about me. Would you like to FedEx me a tasty box of
> Crickets?
> http://www.j-walk.com/other/conf/summary.htm
>
> Here is family of farmers of cocoa crispies and fruity pebbles. My late
> father is first man on upper left.
> http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/
> Thanks and
> Best regards
>
> Eddie Stakes'
> Planet Houston AMX
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.planethoustonamx.com
> Email is currently HEAVY
> 5-12 day reply times, call if important
>
> _______________________________________________
> AMC-List mailing list
> AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list
>
> or go to http://www.amc-list.com
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:52:49 -0800
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Trans for 72 232 six
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20788909.1164156769562.JavaMail.root@web31>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
For some reason the AW4 always slips my mind!
If I was doing an automatic swap I would indeed use it.
They are, as far as I'm concerend, One of the most reliable automatic trans out there. It's not at all unusual to see one pass 200K without a whimper. They have a nice gear spread and work well too.
Anyone put one behind a non EFI six yet? Just curious of what it would take to get the trans controller up and working. I know The manual controllers like Franks can be built or bought, but an true automatic function would be more fitting.
I neverless still have the free 73 904 should anyone want it :]
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- "Swygert wrote:
> Butch, note that you can use ANY 1972-2006 AMC six cylinder transmission
> as long as you use the flexplate and torque conveter made for that
> trans. That includes the AW-4 used behind the 4.0L and lock-up converter
> transmissions. You must use a lock-up converter with a lock-up
> transmission unless the trans is internally modified though.
>
> _______________________________________________
> AMC-List mailing list
> AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list
>
> or go to http://www.amc-list.com
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:59:01 -0500
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Primitive form of cylinder de-activation
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <4563AEE5.8050002@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Younger brother takes a 1984 Dodge Ramcharger 4x4 as partial trade on a
Ford van he was selling. Said Ramcharger was an Arizona truck up until
about March of this year and is very nice inside and out (other than
some faded paint). At some point either on the drive up from Arizona or
shortly after it ended up in Cincinnati, the previous owner ran it out
of oil. My older brother ended up buying it from my younger brother to
repair as my oldest nephew's first car and now it's at my house 'cause I
have all the cool toys you need to R&R an engine.
The engine developed a pretty loud noise (this happened before my
younger brother got it) which sounded too loud and heavy to be valve
train but wasn't quite the deep hammering sound you get from a rod knock
and had a bunch of large metal chunks in the oil. The engine was yanked
out Saturday and partially torn down today and I'll have to say I'm
pretty impressed with the damage.
Basically, it threw a rod but instead of windowing the block, the rod
turned 90 degrees and bent into a U shape in to the cylinder on the
other side of the block. This process also caused a large chunk of the
bottom of that cylinder (the one the rod bent into) to be knocked off
and a couple of small pieces of piston to end up in the valley above the
cam shaft. The crank journal ended up not being gouged but is now
visibly oval shaped. I guess my brother now has an excuse to replace the
318 (or is that a 275.25?) with a 360. I also now can say that I know
what a connecting rod bouncing around inside an engine sounds like.
Luckily, no AMC's were harmed in this entire fiasco.
Matt
--
mhaas@xxxxxxx
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:05:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] someone harvested our emails fromt he list
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611211804590.5964@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Mark Price wrote:
> Me thinks Eddie's thong is too tight again!
>>>SHUDDER<<<
I'm still waitin' for my checks to clear!
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:10:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Trans for 72 232 six
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM"
<Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611211808470.5964@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Mark Price wrote:
> For some reason the AW4 always slips my mind!
Cheap way to get OD in an auto trans!
But these people don't say anything good about them:
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/aw4.htm
Frank, could you reiterate what you did to make a manual
controller for yours? What issues did you have? (I think you
did one without the 4.0 PCM, right?)
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