Mike and all, The Standard Catalog of American motors lists the shipping weight of the 61 Classic Deluxe 4-door wagon as 3014 pounds. Shipping weight is the weight of the car with standard features (no options), lubricants and coolant and just enough gas to get it on and off of the truck to the dealer, generally less than five gallons. The Deluxe series came standard with the cast iron 196 OHV engine. The aluminum block engine is advertised as weighing 80 pounds less than the cast iron block. You shipping weight would therefore be somewhat lighter than 3014 pounds. Joe Fulton Salinas, CA _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com