I had a Hayes 3500 lb pressure plate in my old Camaro, (long gone kept the javelin though) it was a bugger to push in. My left leg was bigger than my right one. Har har. I had to reinforce the z bar to keep it from peeling the lever arms off. The first time a lever arm peeled off I was in the MN Metro area about 17 yrs old, and it was a stock Malibu, cheap GM junk. It sucked couldn't figure out what was happening and in rush hour traffic. Luckily I was going to my brothers place and he knew a mechanic that could fix it for me, I had no tools along either. So anyway I knew enough to fix the Camaro's z bar from that experience. My Javelin just has a standard plate and disc in it now. This does really suck as shifting into third gear the clutch seems to slip, that never happened with the Hayes setup. However I certainly don"t want all the pedal pressure either. There has to be a happy medium somewhere. Maybe that might be to just slow down and smell the roses and enjoy cruising. take care all, Armand _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com