This is one of the main reasons I hesitate to get involved in an effort like this. One person starts/donates a car for a cause. Others decide what the cause should be. The car changes hands from one person/group to another without a clearly defined project plan and management structure. Now the people involved are fighting over how it should be handled. No matter who was going to do what to the car, there should have been a detailed project plan in which who ever had the car at a stage in the project, knew what needed to be done and that they agreed to own certain action items. Now the car is in primer and not painted. Who knows all the details of how the car was stored in primer, what is under it and so on. Every body shop I have ever dealt with will tell you the same thing. They refuse to paint someone else body and primer work. Why didn't Zion paint it? Now the car is going to John W. (nothing against you John at all) when Tom Benvie has said publicly that he will finish all or most of the work by the end of the year on a car that started out as his. Who owns the title to this car? If this car was truly a hobby car being created for the good of some charity organization, then there should be an appointed steering committee that decides the fate of the vehicle and who does what to it not an individual (nothing against you Frank just in general). The charity(s) identified should have had some knowledge of this as well. Every project I have ever been on is designed this way and done so for a reason. There is a client who has a need, a project team that fulfills that need, a project manager that oversees the time-line/milestones and project team, and a steering committee to make the high level decisions. Without this structure, most project will fail as this one has so far. Just my $.02 Nick Alfano Alfano Performance Kenosha, WI. 53142 262-308-1302 262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends Frank, Based on what appeared to be about a 99.9% approval for getting the car back to Tom Benvie ASAP, to finish for the BJ auction in Scottsdale this coming January, you seem to have made an almost unilateral decision to do the opposite.?. I'm sure you've had dialogue with Mr. Benvie about this in the last couple of days, so I'm anxious (as I'm sure others are) to hear his comments (from him). If he is on-board with this latest news, then I guess all is good. Todd (preparing for the deep-freeze) Jesme -----Original Message----- From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of farna@xxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:23 PM To: AMC-List Subject: [AMC-List] Charity AMX is moving! Thanks to the aide of list members, the Charity AMX is moving! John Widiker will be taking over "on-site coordinator" duties while the car as at his shop in Auburn Hills, MI. He's going to look over the car and finish it if he feels he can. I'm reserving saying more than that until he sees the car and determines exactly what is needed. Jack Barncord is planning on picking up the car and transporting to John. I'm reimbursing him for expenses from the funds I still have reserved for the car. John may be asking the list for help later. I want to take this opportunity to thank Dave DeLabio for seeing that the body work got done to the car. It's in primer and ready for paint, will need just a little block sanding and touch-up before color is sprayed on. There was a bit more body work than anticipated, and it took longer than expected, but everything has turned out for the best. Zion Auto Body did a great job! With any luck this car will get completed over the winter and be auctioned early in 2007! -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html (free download available!) Alfano Performance Kenosha, WI. 53142 262-308-1302 262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com