I don't think this is a live link, but you can copy and paste it into your browser. I found it interesting reading. http://www.sandcastlevi.com/racing/jav-us.htm I spent a bit of time reading about the AMC Trans Am efforts. I'm, still thouroughly convinced that the combination of AMC, Penske, and Donohue was a success because of the quality of all three elements. There was no one item that made any of the other two more special. They all contributed equally and came out on top the fourth and fifth attempt after being right there close almost every prior year, even without Penske and Donohue. People can say what they want about the 1971 and 72 seasons being given to Penske/Donohue/AMC because the other factories pulled out of TA racing, but I think it was more that GM and Ford knew there was no way they could beat the unfair advantage that Penske/donohue/AMC had put together and so therefore chose to withdraw from what they knew they couldn't win and maybe save a little bit of embarrassment. What do you think? Armand _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com