A: That isn't quite true. The Model 15 was still being used in the Eagle, but the XJs got D35C in '84 at beginning of production (one piece shafts). I have pics of the D35C casting in the housing of an '88 Eagle as well! Bronco IIs ran a D35 IFS in the front. The D44 became available in '87 as HD option in MJ and XJ. M20 (I'm still looking for one!) was available '84 thru '86 (so only 1 year in MJs!) '91 was a split year of D44 and 8.25. The D53 was used in J4000s till '69, then they went to D60 semi-float till '74. My '73 J4000 was one of the last semi-floats, then they went full float. My J4000 is also getting a 727 (from a newer than '80 FSJ) with Mopar NP208 so it's still RH drop. It was a button up job with the later crossbar. I have to change my exhaust manifolds anyways, so I'll use the later crossover pipe. From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brought home a Vigilante over the weekend... quick history lesson - the d35 didn't even exist until amc turned amc15 axle production over to dana about '87. axle shafts are different but the 'chuck' is the same. only uses for the d35 are xj/yj/zj/etc rears and ford exploder fronts. exploders also used d30 fronts. early xjs used a hd amc15, with amc20 optional. the amc20 was replaced by a d44 for a few years, then a mopar 8.25" starting in the early '90s. on big jeeps, i didn't think the d53 survived into the '60s, but i'm not an expert. the d27 replaced the d25 in the late '40s. it evolved into the d30 in the late '60s. the d44 existed at least since the late '40s, the d60 since some time in the '50s. the d70 might be that old as well. all have front and rear versions; d30, d44, and d60 have high pinion fronts. both d44 and d60 have evolved, principally in spline count and from closed to open knuckles. never heard of a d53 front. 27s and 44s were also made in england; volvo used spicer 27s starting with the 444. the famous jag irs used a spicer 44 chuck; jag posis used to be the hot setup as they were beefier than the american d44 ones. " knwoing that they used Dana 30's and if your uncomfortable with the " 44's i mentioned ok how bout a 3/4 ton running gear Dana 60 front and " rear with the flipped shackles and a Dana 300 or NP 205 transfer case? that was my thought - a j30 d60 rear + a custom high pinion d60fa. " Also while I agree about using a more reliable engine/trans combo " whats so bad about the AMC 327? i thought in 4v form they were tough " motors. I see traditional hot rodders revamping flatties and Ford guys " running tried and true Y block V8's myself included with my 60 Effie. very tough but maybe the big jeeper wants more power? ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com