Send AMC-List mailing list submissions to amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at amc-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AMC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Body Parts Available (KENT ANDERSON) 2. Register @ Frappr.com for amclist (Brien Tourville) 3. Paddle Shifter - steering wheel trans. shifter - (Brien Tourville) 4. for sale: 1987 360 4bbl (Joe) 5. LOW mileage 1972 "232 "six for sale (Joe) 6. JEEP Grand Wagoneer Tqflite trans/transfer case for sale (Joe) 7. Complete NEW exhaust system for Gremlin six cylinder for sale (Joe) 8. Re: All the parts that i just listed for sale (Joe) 9. Re: backfire through carb (Jim Blair) 10. brake question (russ hathaway) 11. Re: brake question (Mark Price) 12. GRM comment (J. w.) 13. Re: AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 39 (ITSMEBT@xxxxxxx) 14. Re: brake question (francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) 15. Annual Canadian AMC Car Show- June 24 (Steve Johnston) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:03:27 -0400 From: "KENT ANDERSON" <65marlin327@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Body Parts Available To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <001501c695fc$4103e7b0$6500a8c0@SONY> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 1960 Rambler 10 Series hood and fenders are available, and in very good shape. Contact David at dhorton28@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for details, if interested. He's located in mid Florida area. Kenny ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:04:31 -0400 From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Register @ Frappr.com for amclist To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <449A5D1F.11190.2C1DB3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII http://www.frappr.com/amclist just a reminder to list yourself & amc on the frappr.com/amclist site. milnersXcoupe NEW YORK ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 09:28:27 -0400 From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Paddle Shifter - steering wheel trans. shifter - To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <449A62BB.854.4207CC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=57972 -or- http://tinyurl.com/fg3fx interesting 'mod' to have - plenty of GM steering wheels / columns that have 12v. and 'buttons' on them - air bags too - worth a look. milnersXcoupe NEW YORK ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:17:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] for sale: 1987 360 4bbl To: AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060622151734.45971.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 For sale: Good running 1987 360 with an Edelbrock aluminum 4bbl Performer intake. Test drove the Grand Wagoneer before pulling it. NO smoke,ticks,knocks...etc! $300. Dirty outside but ran real good! Can deliver for $$$ before i start my new job. Located in central Illinois. Email or call my cell 309-338-3210. Thankyou,Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:23:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] LOW mileage 1972 "232 "six for sale To: AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060622152326.80109.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have the 232 6 cyl from my 43,000 mile 1972 Gremlin that i need to sell. NO more room for storing parts! Swapping in a 401. Complete from carb to pan. Rebuilt carb(last summer),new fuel pump,new water pump,new plug wires,cap,rotor...etc.Located in central Illinois. Pulling it this weekend. $250 . Email me or call my cell 309-338-3210. Thankyou,Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:26:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] JEEP Grand Wagoneer Tqflite trans/transfer case for sale To: AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060622152653.56834.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >From the 1987 Grand Wagoneer that i pulled the 360 from. Drove it down the roiad to check it before pulling the parts. Good auto trans and transfer case. Located in Central Illinois. $275 for all. Will seperate.Will be real busy with new job next week...please leave a message.Email me or call my cell.309-338-3210. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:31:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Complete NEW exhaust system for Gremlin six cylinder for sale To: AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060622153159.33190.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >From my 43,000 mile 1972 Gremlin with a 232 six cyl.Swapping in a V8,don't need it.Just had it made from aluminized pipe two years ago. Fits really well! MAYBE has 2,000 miles on it.Complete from engine to rear bumper. I can seperate the clamp on seam in front of the muffler for easier shipping. $100 plus ship. In central Illinois. Email me or call my cell and leave a message. 309-338-3210. Thankyou,Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:39:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] All the parts that i just listed for sale To: AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060622153911.62520.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm swapping a 401 into my 72 Gremlin. That's why the six cyl parts are for sale.Parted the 87 Grand Wagoneer to use the 360 engine till i could get the 401 back from the shop and assembled. LUCKILY...the machine shop finished my 401 work alot sooner than originally planned.It was squeesed in between alot of SBC drag and dirt track HIGH $$$$ racing engines. I was fortunate that they had a little extra time. Otherwise i would not have gotten it back untill late this fall!! Now i don't need the 360. I'm starting a new TIME CONSUMING job next week. So please email/call my cell and leave a message. I WILL get back with you as soon as i can. Thanks alot,Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:55:03 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] backfire through carb To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <BAY114-F29E06D460B99B94343D9FAAC850@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed A: A Duraspark box on it's way out can cause backfiring as well. I kept a spare in mine (still have several around. Won't be needing them anymore as my J4000 is points and the others are all Renix or HO EFI) From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] backfire through carb To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <1150920558.6260.11.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 08:28 -0700, Jim Blair wrote: >Too retarded is more likely to cause backfire under those conditions. Also >vacuum leak, weak spark, too lean, cam walk are also in the running. Then >there is sticking valves ( a bit of Marvel Mystery oil in the tank helps >that!) and vacuum advance with a hole in it. If you're running points, the >dist internal ground could be seperating, points getting too much >resistance, and a whole lot of other things. (I could tell what it was if I >could hear/see it in person) Thanks for the tips. I'll start diagnosing this weekend (sigh, I have other things to do). I've got a Duraspark II, I'll check distro and timing and eliminate all that. Engine should be like-new (20K mi), so sticky valves seems unlikely, it's lived on synth oil changed religiously. I have it pretty lean, so that's a candidate; I'll re-check the squirter for stroke and leaks (I had a bad squirt pump diaphragm last year). It does seem to happen only when the secondary is open, so I can rich that up a jet size or two or three (it never cruises with secondary open; it's really easy to feel in the pedal). I hope it's ignition or sec main jet cuz it's easy to fix and I'm lazy. Thanks again! tomj _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:01:46 -0700 (PDT) From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] brake question To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060622190146.14425.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I finished pulling parts off the 77 AMX, only have a few incidentals left. If anyone wants anything speak up now, the owner is salivating towards crushing the car. Wally, the owner was gone for a week and I finally got the flairs. I dropped them off today to be sent to you. My question is about the plumbing of the brake lines. Every AMC I see has the drivers front brake line branched off before the line goes to the balance valve. Then after the valve the passenger front brake gets pressure. Doesn't it make sense to run both lines from the MC to the balance valve, then branch off to the L/R front? I realize that it would involve more lines, but it seems better braking would be the result. Also, since these brakes (77 AMX disc/drum) are going on a 64 American, can I run the stop light switch from the front brake coupler, the afore mentioned coupler. Then just branch off after the balance valve to go to the discs? Do I need that warning light set-up on the balance valve or can I yank it out and toss it, then just plug up the hole. I will be putting the 10inch drums from the rear onto the 68 rear end I put in the car, I got rid of the big nut rear long ago. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:28:38 -0700 From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] brake question To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <24641013.1151011718503.JavaMail.root@web13> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I'd get a brake light switch setup from a later American and toss the pressure switch. More work now,less hassles later. The one from a 69 looks real simple and easy to swap onto an American such as your 64. -- Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV ---- russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I finished pulling parts off the 77 AMX, only have a > few incidentals left. If anyone wants anything speak > up now, the owner is salivating towards crushing the > car. Wally, the owner was gone for a week and I > finally got the flairs. I dropped them off today to be > sent to you. > My question is about the plumbing of the brake lines. > Every AMC I see has the drivers front brake line > branched off before the line goes to the balance > valve. Then after the valve the passenger front brake > gets pressure. Doesn't it make sense to run both lines > from the MC to the balance valve, then branch off to > the L/R front? I realize that it would involve more > lines, but it seems better braking would be the > result. > Also, since these brakes (77 AMX disc/drum) are going > on a 64 American, can I run the stop light switch from > the front brake coupler, the afore mentioned coupler. > Then just branch off after the balance valve to go to > the discs? Do I need that warning light set-up on the > balance valve or can I yank it out and toss it, then > just plug up the hole. > I will be putting the 10inch drums from the rear onto > the 68 rear end I put in the car, I got rid of the big > nut rear long ago. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:00:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. w." <sacranoidclub@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] GRM comment To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20060623010013.84501.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message: 14 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:01:23 -0500 From: Glen Hoag <hoag@xxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] link for my 66 rambler To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <a0623090ec0be645cc5e4@[192.168.123.144]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > >So what's the 2006 Challenge? The Kumho Tires/Grassroots Motorsports Magazine $2006 Challenge is a drag/autocross/concours competition in which entrants are limited to a total budget of $2006. This is the seventh running of the Challenge, with the budget always equal to the year. The rules state that you can sell parts to be able to afford new bits. It looks like a lot of fun. <http://www.grassrootsmotorsports.com/news/category/2006-challenge/> the event is a blast and brings out some wild biult cars every year. lots of cars that where never meant to house v-8's, cars built from 7 different cars, home built locosts, even the magazine is building a car this year since the editor has been sitting on berkly for the past couple of years...think light weight FF motorcylce powered 1200lbs car. i did the event in 2004 and brought my 82 olds delta 88 and finished 69th out of 74 cars. that was the smae year as the bat van and the stleath crx, and the bimmer with the 500cid caddy motor... http://grmotorsports.com/archives/2004pictures.html pics from 2004, most of the way down the page look for wreak racing vw golf, behind thier car is my delta88 i ran that year. Joe Gearin, the magazine's advertising sales guy, is a fan of AMCs, among other things. here is the link for his blog and with pics of his rallycross eagle wagon http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/news/category/staff/joe/ (I advertise my EFI business with them.) which buiness is it that you own? that way i can dig though the past issue and see what you do? -- Glen Hoag '75 Pacer 258 (x3) hoag@xxxxxx '76 Pacer 258 (for parts) Limestone County, Alabama '77 Pacer 258 (for kids) '80 Pacer 258 DL wagon '81 Concord DL 258 AMO #7895 AMCPC #471 '82 Spirit 151 that is a lot of pacers.....5 i think i count.... and you right joe was just seeing a rambler and an egle a little while before i bought mine. he also has an eagle set up for rally cross also that he races to beat up the subby down in florida.... see everyone laters. jason __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:53:08 EDT From: ITSMEBT@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 39 To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <50e.13f8baa.31cca384@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have a friend in Morocco Indiana who is rebuilding my 65 American. He rebuilds trannys and does a good honest job. e-mail me and I'll get you an address and Phone no. ITSMEBT@ AOL.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:56:54 -0000 From: <francis.swygert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] brake question To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <8B4C911BEBA5E24888E353FF362B9E7702E65FC3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Russ, it doesn't matter about the brake line routing. The combo valve (CV) and right brake gets the same pressure as the left brake even though the left brake is closer to the master cylinder (MC). The line pressure is equal throughout the system, so it doesn't affect braking at all. If either front brake blows a line or seal the CV will shut off that side, but there will still be no front brakes as no pressure would be applied to them. There is one danger -- if the right front brake blows out and the CV trips, you will still have a left front brake since it "T"s out between the MC and CV. That would lead to a very hard pull to the left when braking. But the CV's main purpose is to warn that there is a brakes failure, and a smart person doesn't drive a car with failed brakes. You don't HAVE to have a warning light, the car will run without it. But then there's no warning if you have a problem. You can run the disc brakes off the drum brake junction block and warning light with no problem. You should install a proportioning valve in the rear brake line though. The CV has a proportioning valve built into it (thus the name "combination valve" -- it combines junction block, warning light, and proportioing in on unit). You can use the Hornet/AMX combo valve in the American also. ------ original message ------------------- Date: Thursday, June 22, 2006 02:01 PM From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> My question is about the plumbing of the brake lines. Every AMC I see has the drivers front brake line branched off before the line goes to the balance valve. Then after the valve the passenger front brake gets pressure. Doesn't it make sense to run both lines from the MC to the balance valve, then branch off to the L/R front? I realize that it would involve more lines, but it seems better braking would be the result. Also, since these brakes (77 AMX disc/drum) are going on a 64 American, can I run the stop light switch from the front brake coupler, the afore mentioned coupler. Then just branch off after the balance valve to go to the discs? Do I need that warning light set-up on the balance valve or can I yank it out and toss it, then just plug up the hole. ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:40:32 -0400 From: Steve Johnston <SJohn89715@xxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Annual Canadian AMC Car Show- June 24 To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <ADVANCES62NXRPmcarc0000005d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain 11th Annual Rambler-Rama 2006 American Motors Car Show and Swap Meet. Organized by the Northern Ramblers Car Club of Canada. Saturday June 24th from 10 AM to 3 PM, rain or shine. Car registration is open to all American Motors and related vehicles including (pre 1987) Jeep, Rambler, Nash, and Hudson. Registration is $10 at the gate, $20 for vendors. Held at Haugen?s Bar-B-Q Restaurant, in Manchester Ontario, just west of Port Perry (town of Manchester, corner of highways 12 and 7A). Visitors, and non car owners, welcome to drop by to see a slice of automotive history. Contact Steve Johnston at 905-939-8050 (email sjohn89715@xxxxxxx) for details. Only 2 hours or so from Buffalo (3 hours from Watertown, NY), for our northern U.S. AMC brethren. Steve Johnston, Newsletter Editor and Club Archivist, Northern Ramblers Car Club of Canada, 119 Cook Drive, RR2, Kettleby, Ontario, L0G 1J0. ============================================================= Posted by wixList Archiver -- http://www.amxfiles.com/wixlist ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list End of AMC-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 45 ***************************************