I would be hesitant to run the car without bumpers for fear of damage. Like I said I liked the late 60's Vette bumpers on a Matador. They are a hell of a light lighter and better looking and would give you some semblance of protection. "Doc" _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wps.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com