John nice story I have a friend with a 360 Coupe which he runs on Gas (LPG) He loves the car I will suggest to him what you have talked about and see what he thinks Cheers Stu Melbourne Australia -----Original Message----- From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Elle Sent: Friday, 5 May 2006 3:29 PM To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Matador Bumpers (Mark Price) Removing the bumpers on a Matador Coupe does something else other than making it look 200% better. I might add though that if you install a good looking set of wheels it makes a big difference too!. I put a bunch of miles on a 77 middle of the road 304 coupe as a used car so this was somewhere around 1981 or so and I spend a couple of weeks driving it around the freeways of southern California with no bumpers as I worked on the body to repaint it white from the International Orange that it was and yes there was a story about that. Once you got all of that weight off of the ends of the car and lemme tell you those bumpers and mounts weighed a ton the basic handling improved 200% too. What is called Polar movement changed completely and the beast started handling like a well balanced sports car. I was driving the car on business at that time and carried a lot of tools in the trunk. There were air shocks installed and I kept just enough air in them to level out the car at any given point in time. Once I got the car painted and the "5 slot mag wheels" installed which filled out the wheel wells I re-installed the bumpers to protect it from LA traffic. And the handling once again reverted to factory equivalent of, well can we say Oink! The car served me very well for a few years. It was on one hand probably for what ever reason the fastest 2bbl V8 car I have ever owned, but on the other hand it never got any better than 11mpg. It could do that though even if it was parked and un-occupied. I thanked my lucky stars for the 26 gallon gas tank many times over. That was also a car that I learned a basic rule from on the economics of operation. It was cheap to buy and maintain and it was paid for. Under those conditions you can afford to put a lot of gasoline in the tank. A situation I still find to be true today. I had a lower control arm go out on the car. As I was debating whether to fix it or dump it the control arm went really bad. I finally decided to fix it and dropped it off at a repair shop recommended to me through the CarQuest store that I bought parts from. As I was driving my Javelin on business at the time then I got a call after a couple of days, the shop was unable to find a control arm. This was at my house first thing in the AM. A half an our later or so I walked into the shop in your basic business suit and tie and handed the mechanic a freshly picked lower control arm that I was able to stop by my favorite AMC junk yard to get. I will never forget the look on the shop foremen's face as I handed him the control arm that a half an hour before he carefully explained to me that he had spent 2 days not finding and was sure there was nothing in southern California and my white shirt was not even dirty. You know, owning AMC cars have been fun for a long time. Thanks by now. John _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wps.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.4/332 - Release Date: 4/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.4/332 - Release Date: 4/05/2006 _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wps.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com