Re: Mooing, Burping, just not startin, Rambler - UPDATE

["Brian Hagen" <brian.hagen@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Matt,

The thing i have problems with is how the distributor "turns" as you insert 
it or remove it when it meshes with the teeth. I have been making sure that 
when it is finally 'seated' is where I wanted it to be.  So im constantly 
inserting and reinserting trying to get it to line correctly.

If i remove it again, im not really sure where I want it to be.  I figured 
that the rotor pointed to Cyl1 at TDC is where i wanted to be, and then a 
little less or more to set the timing.  But i think there is something off 
with my timing mark since that doesnt seem kosher.  I think right now TDC is 
pointing to the cylinder 4

I just went out and swapped the wires counter-clockwise, (1 went in 5, etc) 
and then rotated the distributor clockwise approx so that where #1 was, #5 
replaced. (so that the rotor would be basically pointing to the same place 
on that cylinder) but I couldnt get it to turn over.  Ill try some more 
experiments in the morning...its gettin cold in NJ!

Thanks again,
Brian



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Mooing, Burping, just not startin, Rambler - UPDATE


> Brian,
>
> You can either move the wires around or pull the distributor out enough 
> that you can turn the rotor and set it properly. The motor doesn't care 
> either way but I'd try to get it positioned where it should be so that 
> everything fits properly and it looks right. A big advantage that lining 
> it up correctly has over moving the wires is that 8 or 9 years down the 
> road when you replace the wires, you don't have to remember that they're 
> not in a stock position.
>
> You'll need to either move the wires or the rotor clockwise.
>
> Also, when you go to set the timing, make sure that you set the timing at 
> 500 rpm or less and have the vacuum advance disconnected and plugged. Once 
> the ignition is set, you can then move on to the carburetor.
>
> Matt
>
> At 02:54 PM 11/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> > Shes alive! Cough Sputter... but running.
> >
> > I got it running by turning the distributor fully counter clockwise so the 
> > vacuum advance is now touching the block.  It runs, but backfires out of 
> > the carb.  At this running point, she is 25 degrees advanced via my timing 
> > light.
> >
> > Before i go any further myself, what should i try next? shifting the plug 
> > wires one by one.. clockwise or counterclockwise?  And then adjusting the 
> > distributor in what direction to compensate for the plug wire shift?
> >
> > Thanks! Shes running! cough sputter..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 2:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: Mooing, Burping, just not startin, Rambler - UPDATE
> >
> >
> > > Brian,
> > >
> > > The distributor is likely still off a little bit (chances are, it's 
> > > trying to fire either #4 or #5 instead of #1). With the hold down clamp 
> > > loose and the ignition on, turn the distributor while cranking the 
> > > engine. Try both ways but go slowly since you can go right past where it 
> > > needs to be. As you get closer to having it lined up, it should back fire 
> > > out of the carburetor less. You may run into the problem where you can't 
> > > turn the distributor enough to get it to work. If that's the case, you'll 
> > > need to remove the distributor and turn the rotor some. Also, if you find 
> > > that it's just about at the end of where it can move after you get it 
> > > running, you can move the wires around on the cap if you don't want to 
> > > mess with moving the rotor.
> > > >>
>
> mhaas@xxxxxxx
> Cincinnati, OH
> http://www.mattsoldcars.com
> 1966 Rambler Rebel
> 1968 Rambler American sedan
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