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console and 4-spd
- From: "John W Rosa" <JohnRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:01:56 -0400
From: Russ
Also adding to the possibility of a console appearing
in something other than 2-dr hdtps, you don't know
what some one with some juice at the factory had
installed in a car. Other makes were known to get an
option that was not supposed to be a particular car,
so why not AMC.
Just because the dealer says it can't be ordered in a
particular model, doesn't mean that someone tossed
enough money or weight around to make it so
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Russ,
Now we're talking some pretty tight, oddball stuff here.
Sure, a high-roller' can get anything they want if
willing to pay the inflated bill. My observation were
about what AMC would do for you and me as a regular
customer.
I recall an article in a Muscle Car mag years ago that
showed a 1970 GTO Judge station wagon....factory built.
How? A line worker simply asked for it. Was it truly a
GTO? No. They simply installed every GTO piece that
would fit onto a Tempest wagon. Naturally, the drivetrain,
front clip, decals, dash and steering wheel, wheels, and
so on, were all genuine GTO pieces installed at the
factory....but it still isn't a GTO. It had regular
Tempest rear springs, and other significant departures
from normal GTO gear.
Now I've never seen a Torino Cobra four door or a Road
Runner wagon, so I can't speak to those companies and
their 'rules' for 'special-orders'.
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From: John McEwen <moparrr@xxxxxxx>
As AMC had previously offered "sports" equipment on its full-sized
cars, it seems possible that these kinds of additions were available
on special dealer order. Why not a console, 4 speed (or floor shift)
bucket seat wagon? Other companies offered them. As we have seen,
Ambassadors could at least be ordered with console, floor shifter and
buckets. Why would the company limit itself to one body style when
the identical platform of a sedan or wagon would accommodate these
changes with no more difficulty than on the 2 doors?
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John- They often had solid reasons for not offering
'anything that fits' into differing models. It's
a matter of sales strategy. The most obvious example
I can give is the Gremlin/Hornet/Javelin V8
availability. AMC figured if you could order a Gremlin
with a 401, why would you bother to buy a Hornet or
Javelin? Thus, Gremlin was restricted to 304, Hornet
to 360 and Javelin got the 401. Sure, Randall AMC
fixed this themselves (much to AMC's vocal opposition,
I'm sure), but factory-built, you couldn't get it 'your
way'. And of course, some would buy the Javelin 401
even if Gremlin 401 had been available, but still, a
large number of 'go-fast-cheap' folks would have just
grabbed the Gremlin...and AMC would have lost the better
profit margin of the Javelin each time.
As for why the bucket restriction, well, as I figure,
the stitching pattern of the buckets is far different
from that on the wagon's folding rear seat. So the wagon's
rears mimic the regular front units only...leaving one
less piece to create and stockpile. Now, the four door
...that's a good question, as it shares it's back seat
pieces with the two door....so the bucket-matching rear
of the two door fits the four-door, too...meaning
buckets in a four door would have been an easy no-
brainer option (no matter how few get ordered). Perhaps
Mr. Mahoney has an good idea why?
John W Rosa
http://www.JavelinAMX.com
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