Re: Is this **THE** Matador Machine?

["Blaine" <blaine@xxxxxxxx>]

Out of the "factory" 1971 American Motors Data Book - section 4 page 24:
Individual reclining seats optional on all models but the vinyl buckets
option were listed as available only on the 2dr hardtops.

Blaine Hertzog ('71 SC/360)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W Rosa" <JohnRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: Is this **THE** Matador Machine?


>
> Regarding the 'brochures are printed early' scenario, the
> 1972 brochure also specifically states buckets are a two-
> door-only option. So it didn't change between early in the
> 1971 model year and early in the 1972 model year. I'd say
> it's safe to assume it remained that way through the entire
> 1971 model year.
>
> I'm forced to side with the brochures, as they are from
> 'the source', over the book. Besides, Larry Daum (who wrote
> the AMC/Rambler section) never states the buckets ARE
> available in non-two-doors. He simply never states they
> weren't...but then he never states the cars can't float! ;)
>
> The possibility exists, too, that Larry's contribution to
> the book was edited down and lost a specific mention of
> the bucket seat exclusion. The book is written by many
> and edited by one, so if space became an issue, cuts of
> perceived 'less-important' info may have happened.
>
> Heck, Larry is on this list. What say you, dude?
>
> But AMC does specify the exclusion. So until I see a
> factory build-sheet indicating buckets in a four-door or
> wagon, I have to stick with factory documentation that
> says it wasn't available. The reverse is 'conjecture'
> based on something someone didn't say.
>
>
>
> Side-note....between this and my private 'gauge pod '
> discussion with Eddie Stakes today, I've got every damn
> brochure, stockholder's report and TSM I own spread
> all over my office floor!! What a MESS!!!
>
> John W Rosa
> http://www.JavelinAMX.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John McEwen [mailto:moparrr@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:22 PM
> > To: John W Rosa
> > Subject: Re: Is this **THE** Matador Machine?
> >
> >
> > Hi John:
> >
> > I got out a magnifying glass to see what the hell I've been quoting
> > and must apologize regarding the four speed situation.  It was
> > available on both Go-Machine packages.  I think I read two lines at
> > once or something as there is a reference to the 401 in the previous
> > line..
> >
> > However, I still don't see anything forbidding bucket seats and
> > console with Command Shift in any model of Matador - or even in the
> > Ambassador.  Only the four speed was restricted to Go-Machine cars
> > which had to be hardtops.  It looks like I was half right.
> >
> > One thing I've learned about information from brochures and factory
> > order books is that they were printed before production began and
> > that they were modified as demand indicated.  Dealers received
> > updates as to change ordering situations.  Brochures didn't reflect
> > any of these changes unless a part-season brochure was released.
> >
> > We know that we can never be certain that something was or was not
> > done by the factory.
>
> >
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