RE: Is this **THE** Matador Machine?
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RE: Is this **THE** Matador Machine?



Thanks John, I love these little mysteries - which are of no account except for a few of us who like to solve problems It will be interesting to hear from others as to the presence or absence of this seating in an actual vehicle - or by viewing a build sheet.

John


Regarding the 'brochures are printed early' scenario, the
1972 brochure also specifically states buckets are a two-
door-only option. So it didn't change between early in the
1971 model year and early in the 1972 model year. I'd say
it's safe to assume it remained that way through the entire
1971 model year.

I'm forced to side with the brochures, as they are from
'the source', over the book. Besides, Larry Daum (who wrote
the AMC/Rambler section) never states the buckets ARE
available in non-two-doors. He simply never states they
weren't...but then he never states the cars can't float! ;)

The possibility exists, too, that Larry's contribution to
the book was edited down and lost a specific mention of
the bucket seat exclusion. The book is written by many
and edited by one, so if space became an issue, cuts of
perceived 'less-important' info may have happened.

Heck, Larry is on this list. What say you, dude?

But AMC does specify the exclusion. So until I see a
factory build-sheet indicating buckets in a four-door or
wagon, I have to stick with factory documentation that
says it wasn't available. The reverse is 'conjecture'
based on something someone didn't say.



Side-note....between this and my private 'gauge pod '
discussion with Eddie Stakes today, I've got every damn
brochure, stockholder's report and TSM I own spread
all over my office floor!! What a MESS!!!

John W Rosa
http://www.JavelinAMX.com

 -----Original Message-----
 From: John McEwen [mailto:moparrr@xxxxxxx]
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:22 PM
 To: John W Rosa
 Subject: Re: Is this **THE** Matador Machine?


Hi John:


 I got out a magnifying glass to see what the hell I've been quoting
 and must apologize regarding the four speed situation.  It was
 available on both Go-Machine packages.  I think I read two lines at
 once or something as there is a reference to the 401 in the previous
 line..

 However, I still don't see anything forbidding bucket seats and
 console with Command Shift in any model of Matador - or even in the
 Ambassador.  Only the four speed was restricted to Go-Machine cars
 which had to be hardtops.  It looks like I was half right.

 One thing I've learned about information from brochures and factory
 order books is that they were printed before production began and
 that they were modified as demand indicated.  Dealers received
 updates as to change ordering situations.  Brochures didn't reflect
 any of these changes unless a part-season brochure was released.

 We know that we can never be certain that something was or was not
 done by the factory.








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