Amen Bart - Many years ago , before I put in the hot engine in the Gremmie - it was a drum car - first road test with 400+ hp was last road test with drums!!!! Trying to haul it down from 100+ was ok for the first 100 feet , then the pucker factor increased as the braking factor decreased. The only decent use i have found for the old drums is to mate them with the an axle from the pile of twisted Dana axles and make pretty stanchions for the car shows. see ya - Vik