Jerry and group, All radiators have a fan shroud from the factory. The shroud is necessary for proper air flow over the engine. As cool air comes through the fan it cools not only the water but also by being directed over the engine, it also pulls the hot air off of it resulting in cooling it too. Even air cooled engines, both automotive and motorcycle, have some type of shroud. Other things to consider if a vehicle is overheating are the radiator hoses and the belts. If the hoses are collapsing from age or repeated overheating, they will breakdown internally. If the belts are worn, they can slip as easily as a loose belt, especially under an increased load or extended road trip in a hot climate. Just my .02 worth. Dave Shaver Havelock, NC 71 Gremlin ----- Original Message ----- From: Gremlingts@xxxx To: gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; mail@xxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: [gremlintime] Gremlin / Hornet radiators ; small vs. large...shroud or none? My '74 Gremlin ran fine both coming and going to Kenosha, but my friend's '73 Hornet 4-dr sedan had the little tiny radiator, and it was constantly running the temp up near the H mark on the trip, so much so we had to stop every few hours for a break to let his cool down some. He had had a new one installed, too, and a new thermostat. No fan shroud, though. Did the little rads have a shroud? My full size radiator does, my car had A/C at one time, even if it is only an inch or so "thick". LOL. I guess every little bit helps. Anyway, if anyone else has a small radiator, and lives in a hot area, and can give me any experiences you have had, please let me know! And would a 160 degree thermostat help at all? Thanks, Jerry in Virginia Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Community email addresses: Post message: gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe: gremlintime-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx Unsubscribe: gremlintime-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx List owner: gremlintime-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/gremlintime Gremlintime(Home of the AMC Gremlin on the WWW): http://www.geocities.com/gremlintime Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]