Here is one response to a Thread I brought to the amc-list.com . Knowledge of this particular Uni Body stiffening method seam to be unknown to the average Muscle Car builder . brien. 1981 GREMLIN 4X4 'Merciful 6' "coulda had a V8 :-} )8- /O-0` From: "Daniel G Ritzinger" <danritz@xxxx> To: mail@xxxx Subject: Re: Re:Seam welding Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:20:18 -0600 Misc info from the Web at large: 2001 SEMA Show Jaguar XKR-R The XKR-R was built from the ground up using new, modified, and custom-built parts. Not a single component-from the revised shape of the front bumper to the quad-outlet exhaust-escaped Jaguar's Special Vehicle Operations (SVO). The team strengthened the car by seam-welding the unibody, mounting the front suspension on aluminum bushings, and installing an eight-point roll-bar. SVO also installed Recaro racing seats and four-point seatbelts. The custom Eibach springs with fully adjustable racing-type remote-reservoir shock absorbers are specific to this vehicle. Jaguar used its own 20-inch BBS-sourced R-Performance wheels and Brembo-sourced R-Performance brake calipers and cross-drilled rotors. But the real fun is under the louvered hood, where a supercharged V-8 churns out roughly 450 horsepower. SVO replaced the stock five-speed automatic transmission with a customized Tremec T-56 six-speed manual, which is paired with an AP Racing twin-plate clutch. THE LUFFIELD CARS MG CAR CLUB SPEED CHAMPIONSHIP 2001 3.2.7 Chassis & Bodywork - Aluminium, fibreglass or other plastic front wings are allowed. These components must be full road weight; lightweight competition panels or skins are prohibited. Aluminium bonnets will only be permitted if available as a contemporary special tuning option. MGB GT and MGC GT only may use lightweight tailgate and rear window. No other modifications to the chassis or bodywork are permitted: they must be of the same construction and materials to that used for routine production vehicles of each model type, during their production life span. Seam welding is permitted. Spoilers and splitters are permitted - for the definition of a spoiler see the MSA Year Book; aerofoils are prohibited. Convertible and drop head models may remove their hood assembly if the car runs with a hard top fitted. Carrera RS, Carrera Cup USA and RS America - what they are and how they compare with each other. Interesting are the changes to the bodywork to make the Carrera RS Basic suitable for N/GT and Carrera Cup racing. For those of you interested in the complete scope of the changes, I refer you to the Carrera 2/4 Workshop Manual, Body Volume V, pages 50-101 to 53-104. Briefly, these modifications include anchorages welded to the transmission tunnel and floor under the seat for a six point harness, alternate mounting points for the ABS and DME brains, provisions for mounting a front tow hook as well as seam welding and bracing of the rear suspension mounting points, floor area and stabilizer mounts, plus some other changes. Fender lips are rolled for tire clearance front and rear. The RS Basic, at 2684 pounds, is 347 pounds lighter than the USA Carrera 2. Newsgroups: alt.autos.toyota One hting I have read in Rally car prep is these guys actaully pull the front and rear subframes off of unidbody and insert box tubing into them and re weld them to the cars. Also they do a lot of seam welding of chassis. Be careful on both of these since its easy to screw up a good chassis if you don't know what you are doing. Seam welding done improperly can really warp chassis. Newsgroups: rec.autos.rotary All racing cars (legal ones any road) have safety cages and more often than not seam welding. This gives torsional rigidy figiures in the order of 60,000 lbft as opposed to the 10000lb ft I think is normal for a small saloon /sedan car. The 500hp rotary racer may produce significantly less torque than a 500hp street V8. The problem with high torque V8s in shells that were not designed for them and have not be strengthened is fatigue and creep caused by the cyclical application of torsional stress across the diagonal of the car (usually FL to RR). The RR spring often gets destressed before chassis though. OK if you potter around in the car and use an autobox no problem. BUT if you want to play with your V8 just strengthen the chassis. Dan Dan Ritzinger << '69 Javelin 401/727 >> << '61 T-Bird >> WANTED - 20's Jewett parts/literature Central Wisconsin WANTED - 20's Dodge Brothers rear fenders/misc. SEE MY JAVELIN AT: http://chaos.coredcs.com/~danritz/JAVELIN.JPG