To the mix.... Believe me I understand. Thanks for the reply. I have also been with the AMC hobby for over 20 years and I have owned 6 (now 7) Gremlins. I understand how you (and others) could have felt going to shows with the 200 point cars off the trailers. I wish we could have a class for the best USED cars ... but in the past when any club has tried this someone tries to put a unused car (trailer queen) in it to win. I have seen some guys that I know for a fact that they are driving the car all the time... go without getting an award because people don't believe that you can have a nice car that is driven. Some times you just can't win! So just go with it. Enjoy the fact that we are all different and don't let the guy with all the money bother you. He may not have any other enjoyment is his/her life other than the car... that is why they put so much money into it. Let's face it ... after all, it is all about money on many of these cars. I could hire someone to do all the work on my Gremlin and you would probably never know it, but I would! I like working on the cars. Once it is done I know what I have and I don't care what other think. Sure, I have my cars judged... because I want to learn more about making it better MYSELF. It is all in how you look at it mix. You probably did the right thing and started a new club. But give some of us (AMC Clubs) another chance. It is the people that make a club .... if you want to change things you have to be a part of it. I hope to see you ... and talk with you ... GREMLINS FOREVER! In the time to come ... try to be positive to all the new comers to the chat and the hobby. They are our future we don't want to turn them off. You seem to have been burn. I hope that won't happen again. Matt