I found a pair of specialty sockets called Lug Off, they are for removing damaged, rusty, or the key-type of mag lug nut. They look like a reverse Easy-out tool, with spiral threads inside the sockets. Guy at the counter said the tire store down the street used them all time to remove those keyed mag lugnuts when the owners forget to leave them the special key, or rusty one when they've rounded off. I have a '57 chevy that's been sitting, and I didn't know how I was going to get the rusty lugs off, they'd downsized from rusting so long, the lug wrench just spins on them. So, now I have a good tool to get them off with! They're made by Steck, P/N 71200, and have a disclaimer saying Not to sale to General Public, Professional use only. So they must work! They better for $40! Now I just need to figure out how to get the lug nuts out of the socket when I remove them, if they jam in the socket...hmm. I'll figure it out. Jerry