Hey there Bart, You know that I have nothing but love for ya but the language is getting out of hand. Your posts will now be moderated because I have warned you before that this is a family list and we have to keep it PG!! I'm sorry I had to do this but it will only be temporary until you prove to me that you can keep the f word and s$%T out of your posts. There are actually about four members of the list that are under 18 plus we have one nice little Granma who probably don't want to be exposed to this kind of language on the list. Peace Paul