Perhaps there is no "replacement for displacement," but you shouldn't be so hard on the sixes, Bart. I think that a six makes a fast car all the more impressive; everyone has a v8 (except for rice burners...but they don't count as real cars, anyway<g>). And, a built up six can still be feasible as a daily driver. I don't think I'd go the turbo route though because of the need for premium gas. -- Daniel Modlin mailto:dmodlin@xxxx http://home.earthlink.net/~dmodlin Burbank, CA ICQ #4076445