Goodmorning everyone, It has been a while since I put my two cents worth in. I too take a lot of joking about my Gremlin. I love it. I think I own the only one in my home town. People turn around and look at you when you drive down the street. Plus I have antique plates and that draws attention. Mine is not in perfect shape but it sure runs great. A few rust spots that I cannot seem to get fixed. When I took it to one place to have it fixed he said he would not work on my piece Of junk. Needless to say I was not happy with that remark. Therefore it has not been repaired. To bad I do not live closer to all of you guys who seem to enjoy repairing Gremlins. Oh well I am only an 82 year old grandma who dearly loves her car. It only has 89,650 miles and it is 27 years old so what can you expect. It is my pride and joy and it gets me where I want to go and that is all that I ask of it. Enjoy all the flack you get-- they are only Jealous that they do not own one. Happy motoring. Gremlin Grammie 1976 Green Gremlin Owned since l976 -----Original Message----- From: gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:51 PM To: gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gremlintime] Digest Number 877 Community email addresses: Post message: gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe: gremlintime-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx Unsubscribe: gremlintime-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx List owner: gremlintime-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/gremlintime Gremlintime(Home of the AMC Gremlin on the WWW): http://www.geocities.com/gremlintime ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Digest Number 876 From: twa1950@xxxx 2. steve in va From: james johnson <rooster1@xxxx> 3. Re: Digest Number 876 From: ecurbpope@xxxx 4. Re: swing outs - Comments from a new Gremlin Time Member From: "Kevin" <grinding_gremlin@xxxx> 5. Re: Re: swing outs - Comments from a new Gremlin Time Member From: ecurbpope@xxxx 6. Re: 1970 two passanger Gremlin - ready to ruin - From: Henry Hultquist <onree@xxxx> 7. Eagle 5-speed into 1972 Gremlin?????? From: Henry Hultquist <onree@xxxx> 8. All AMC car show. From: "way2phastphil" <way2phastphil@xxxx> 9. Re: Eagle 5-speed into 1972 Gremlin?????? From: "way2phastphil" <way2phastphil@xxxx> 10. Re: Re: Eagle 5-speed into 1972 Gremlin?????? From: james johnson <rooster1@xxxx> 11. Re: Re: swing outs - Comments from a new Gremlin Time Member From: "Karla Dick" <luvdmouse57@xxxx> 12. Re: 77 Gremlin X ? From: rockwithxs@xxxx 13. Re: Subject: How much is gas in your city? happy labor day From: "bobm" <bob.medina@xxxx> 14. Re: 77 Gremlin X ? From: james johnson <rooster1@xxxx> 15. Re: Subject: How much is gas in your city? happy labor day From: rockwithxs@xxxx 16. Re: 77 Gremlin X ? From: CJ <redneck2212@xxxx> 17. Re: swing outs - Comments from a new Gremlin Time Member From: "robot_tank" <robot_tank@xxxx> 18. Re: Re: Eagle 5-speed into 1972 Gremlin?????? From: hallosey@xxxx 19. Gremlin Pictures Posted From: "robot_tank" <robot_tank@xxxx> 20. Re: Starter Problems From: MagicGaliquogi@xxxx 21. Gremlins, pintos and vegas From: MagicGaliquogi@xxxx 22. Re: What's a Gremlin worth? From: MagicGaliquogi@xxxx 23. Re: How much is gas in your city? happy labor day From: MagicGaliquogi@xxxx 24. Re: Subject: How much is gas in your city? happy labor day From: MagicGaliquogi@xxxx 25. Re: Re: Starter Problems From: ecurbpope@xxxx ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 09:52:01 -0400 From: twa1950@xxxx Subject: Re: Digest Number 876 While I don't think you will every retire on the money you make by selling your Gremlin. It does have a lot of good points. You will be noticed when your driving down the highway. When I go to car shows I never have to worry about getting into the wrong car like so many of the other owners of other "classic" car owners do. How many red 65 Mustangs were made anyway. I love the idea I can go to a car show and have corvette, street rods, ect park next to me and I have never heard anyone ask me what I was doing at the car show. I love the idea that I am the only one there. So while you won't get rich off the profits of your Gremlin think of it this way. What other car can you get for less than $3,000 that is fun to drive, will get you noticed when your driving down the street, will start a conversation almost every time you stop, can take to car shows, and will out run half the new cars the road with the V8 and not do bad with the 6. Think about it. Not much difference than that $30,000 street rod parked next to at the next car show and your a lot richer. Terry ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:16:59 -0700 From: james johnson <rooster1@xxxx> Subject: steve in va morn'n everone.. mr steve in va.. if mr steve in va is here can/will you e-mail me back please..i had deleted ur e-mail address... thanks james-{onehorsetrader} ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:25:39 EDT From: ecurbpope@xxxx Subject: Re: Digest Number 876 Thanks Terry, Your right. I've taken a lot of "barbs" becuase I've owned a Gremlin. I get comments like" well I can understand if it were a Vette or a Jag...but a Gremlin. Unless you've owned one you wouldn't understand. I have owned three. The two I no longer owned I used to haul firewood out of the woods untill they wouldn't run any more. I could load them up with so much heavy green oak that there was barely a place to sit and drive the car. I would set the idle "higher " on the carb and I would be able drive over hilly paths without even hitting the gas. I know I've reacted harshly over the last bunch of e mails in regard to the value of the cars. I apologize to everyone. In my defence, I just had a hard time accepting the trash talk about Gremlins coming from "AMC'ers and fellow Gremlin owners. I'm not trying to get rich off the car, but I don't want to give it away either. Thanks for your e mail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:33:57 -0000 From: "Kevin" <grinding_gremlin@xxxx> Subject: Re: swing outs - Comments from a new Gremlin Time Member Cool! now I know more about the swing out windows. Thanks for posting. Perhaps I will just put the swing outs I have out of my junk '76 Into my good '76. I want my '73 Grem to be as original as she can be, I don't want to put something on her that dosen't belong there. She has a lot of rare options so I want to restore her back to perfection...or at least as close as I can get for a back yard mechanic using an old barn for a garage. :) As far as other peoples discussions about Gremlin value, I say right on Terry! Who cares what they are worth as long as you like the car and enjoy driving it. On the flip side of that, I would pay a lot for a real nice Gremlin, er... that is if I had the $$ to do so. I would love to have that little two seater, but I have other Gremmies that need me. I think personally people get hung up on the whole classic thing. I'd much rather have something that no one else has. It's also much more fun, when you find one or find a part for one it's so exciting because there are not many around. I wouldn't be suprised if that one day these guys with there Mustangs and '57 Chevs figure out what has been going on unnoticed all this time and then start wanting Gremlins, Then I'll have to find something else abscure to collect. tee hee! After all everyone was junking the little Nash Metropolitans back in the '70's then all of a sudden they became very popular. Now try and get one reasonable. I think the same thing happened with the little Nash Ramblers on a smaller scale. I think in a small way the Grems are starting to make an impression. I see em on commercials, TV shows, and an occasional one on the big screen. As far as I am concerned they have all ready made it to classicdom. :) Later, Kevin Blah blah blah --- In gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "robot_tank" <robot_tank@xxxx> wrote: > Hello all, I'm fairly new to this group. Been reading it for awhile, > but only just got my membership approved so I can post. > > Anyway in regards to the swing open rear side windows... I had a '72 > Gremlin X 304 / 3 speed some years ago that had them. The '72 was > the first year for those windows according to all of the AMC product > brochures I have. There are two different mounting styles of windows. > The '72, '73 style and the '74 and later. Since buying my current > Gremlin last year, I wanted to put those windows in it. My '73 > Gremlin X has the fixed windows. I picked up a set with all of the > hardware and weatherstripping. When I compared the mounts to the > service manual I discovered that they were from a later model > Gremlin, not a '73 or earlier. I can use them, but I'd have to drill > holes into the body to mount them and I'm not going to do that. The > earlier style has a 'bracket' for lack of a better term, on the > leading edge of the window that has three (I think that's right) > scalloped cut outs that have holes in them to screw to the window > post. The 'bracket' then flexes to allow the window to open. The > later model windows have a stud that pivots and goes thru the window > post and bolts to it. There is also an upper post that goes into the > upper window frame of the body that the window swings on. Either > way, to install these windows you need not only the windows and > hardware but you also need the associated weatherstripping as the > window sealed by laying against the weatherstripping with a tight > fit. Finding decent stripping is difficult at best. It's not > reproduced. > > All of this being said, I would like to trade my '74 and later swing > out windows, hardware, and weatherstripping for a '73 and earlier > set. Must be complete. If anyone's interested, please email me back > directly. > > If I can figure out how to post pictures to your photos site, I'll > post some pics of my Gremie X. This is a great site. I have a car > show story or two I'd like to share sometime with everyone also. > > Regards, > Tom Cloud > '73 Gremlin X 401/auto > '67 Rambler Rogue Convert 290/auto > '80 Eagle Wagon Sport > '84 Eagle Wagon ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:09:50 EDT From: ecurbpope@xxxx Subject: Re: Re: swing outs - Comments from a new Gremlin Time Member Kevin, I agree with you. I have been telling "nae sayers" for years the time of the Gremlin is going to happen someday. The cars are incredibly strong and yes they are cool. Its just "trendy" to jump on the idiot band wagon to knock them. Especially if the person hops into a Pontiac Aztek afterword. I also think the disdane for Gremlins is what makes it a "in your face" car. I have been amazed at the gall some people have when they hear you have a Gremlin and scoff. It is a "Lemming" reaction if you ask me. I also tend to judge them as people who can only drive cars that are "acceptable" to other people. Sounds to me like they never got a handle on the peer pressure aspect of life. The advantage to owning a Gremlin is its like owning a "personality detecter." If people walk up to it an treat you with respect its a pretty good indication they have their heads "screwed on " correctly. If they sidestep social courtesy and start to insult your choice in life, it usually means your dealing with a person who is a jerk. Its nice to have a machine that helps you sort out the good people from the jerks, and its all done automatically. You can stand next to it and it just happens by itself! You don't have to plug it in or recharge it and there is no limit to how many people it sorts out. What a marvelous machine. A jerk "sorter outer." And we thought they were just cars!!!!!! Thanks and have a nice one. BMP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:28:51 -0500 From: Henry Hultquist <onree@xxxx> Subject: Re: 1970 two passanger Gremlin - ready to ruin - Bruce, I would like to thank you for the pics you sent me of your car a couple of weeks ago. I still have some interest and your asking price is not really the issue, but back to that later. Your post asked for comments, so here are some from a guy who has been involved in the lower end (no $40,000 '57 Chevy convertibles for this old car nut) of the old car hobby since before there even was a Gremlin. Most of my old cars have been worth a few hundred to a few thousand dollars. My first old car was a 1953 Buick woody bought in 1966 (for FORTY dollars!!!) Of course I wish I still had it. In the first week of April 1970 I bought the very first Gremlin sold in Lincoln, Nebraska--my home town. In the mid nineties, after many years of acquiring cars (because they seemed like a good deal or just because I wanted them) my double lot started looking like little appalachia with about ten cars--and most didn't run. The neighbors didn't like it, the cops didn't like it, but most of all my wife didn't like it. I always said that I would restore them "some day" but my wife said "Hell no, all you ever do with your old cars is STORE them--there is no RESTORE involved." And she was right. I hadn't done any significant amount of car work for six or seven years--all I did was let them follow me home. Even my dad (who loves cars) said that I might just as well nail hundred dollar bills to the inside of the garage as keep buying non running (or barely running) cars to sit in the back yard. And he was right. The upshot of all this is that on Jan 1, 1997 I bought my wife a new Dodge Caravan, and I made a new year's resolution (and a promise to my wife) that I would not buy any more cars that I could not get in, turn the key, start it, and drive it home. Since then I have sold three Corvairs, a Cadillac, two Volkswagens, and a 1952 Pontiac Sedan Delivery. I have put my Morris Minor, 1986 Dodge convertible, and 1953 Chevy BelAir into reliable, licensed, insured, running condition. I enjoy driving them. I have since bought a 1981 Eagle SX4 (off eBay in Oklahoma city) a 1984 Eagle wagon (in San diego) and a 1972 Gremlin (in Sacramento) AND DRIVEN ALL OF THEM HOME!! (I did have to buy tires for the SX4) I have absolutely no regrets about the promise I made. I think that at this point I could have a "slip" and be forgiven, but I'm not sure I want to go back to that. I have to think very seriously about my promise. As far as values go, a car that does not run and drive is ALWAYS worth significantly less than the same car in driveable condition. A half finished, unfinished, nearly finished, (whatever) work in progress just raises too many questions in the buyers mind. A rebuilt engine that's never been started, (not even a starter on the car to turn it over) really scares me. If the car is so close why don't you get it running and driving? It will not only be worth MORE MONEY but will be much, much, EASIER to sell at whatever price. Questions--- 1--What is the basic body color? 2--1970 Gremlins came with 13" wheels, do you have the original 13" wheels? 3--Is the engine a 199 or a 232 ? 4--Floor shift or column shift? 5--Is the interior intact and complete, and what color? 6--Do you have a 1970 AMC Technical (shop) Manual with the car? 7--Do you have organized documentation (receipts) for what has been done/spent on the car, like machine shop bills for the motor work, etc? 8-By when do you need to sell it? I'll be driving past Chicago in early October. Still interested at ~~$2000 (or maybe even more) in a running, driving car. Sorry to be such a "Rambler" but I guess that's an AMC characteristic. Onree on 9/2/03 1:35 PM, ecurbpope@xxxx at ecurbpope@xxxx did write: > Hal, > > I have to agree with you. Pop on to Yahoo used cars ... punch in any Honda > and keep scrolling untill you see what you get for 1,250 bucks. What people > are telling me is that my 1970 is worth the equivilant to a rusted out Honda > with 140,000 plus miles on it. The markets for the two are not comparable because nationally there are millions of people looking for cheap transportation (the rusty Honda) compared to a few thousand people (at most )interested in old AMC cars, and maybe only a few hundred willing to buy one that doesn't run. > I find this hard to believe coming from the same people who are expounding > that AMC's were the best cars on earth. I like AMC cars because they are different, interesting, and affordable. I like the underdog and "David vs. Goliath aspect too, but would never call them the best. Not even close. I like them anyway. > Not ever selling my car before, I > realize that I have to break through the emotional aspect without expecting > someone to pay me for my sentimental value. But when the suggestion is made to > sell @ the $ 800 level, it generates a lot of questions in my mind. A seller can set the ASKING price at whatever he wants based on the criteria of his choosing, but the actual sale price is always determined by the willing and able buyer. I have outright given away a couple of cars and also sold several for much less than I had "invested" (generally the wrong word to use when talking about money spent on a car) when I needed the space, or the money, or my automotive interests simply changed. I asked a realistic price because I wanted to sell the car, not just try to sell it. When someone showed up with cash in hand I sold the car AND THEN I LET GO OF IT. Your price is probably realistic, but a non running car is really just a well organized collection of parts. > > I made the comment on another posting. I can see why people run out and drop > other parts such as Chevy engines and other stuff into their AMC's. When the > bottom line is that you are going to get peanuts for them, bolt on or in > anything you want. Why would I want to perpetuate "purest" attitudes at my > expense. I have never been able to understand why AMC people are so against brand X engines in AMC cars. A Gremlin with a Chevy motor is still a Gremlin. In CORSA (the Corvair club) you are welcome with a Corvair motor in anything (like a dune buggy, boat, airplane, motorhome, trike, etc) or a Corvair body with any motor, and I have seen Corvairs with Chevy v-8s, Buick v-6s and 8s, Porsche motors, even a Jaguar V-12 (yes!) and a Subaru flat 4. The CORSA club is very tolerant and accepting--which is probably why there is only one national club instead of several like AMC. > > > So, anyone want to comment. Are Gremlins and other AMC's equivilant in value > to say a 1984 rusted out Honda, a mid grade new mattress, a new push mower or > bar- B- Q grille. > > > Just a thought. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:33:54 -0500 From: Henry Hultquist <onree@xxxx> Subject: Eagle 5-speed into 1972 Gremlin?????? Advice wanted-- I've got a chance to buy for cheap a wrecked and rusty 1983 Eagle SX4 that has a 5-speed manual transmission. Will this tranny go into my 1972 Gremlin 258 six, and replace my 3-speed manual without too much trouble? Are Eagle trannies somehow different because of the four wheel drive setup? Thanks for any input. Onree ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:21:51 -0000 From: "way2phastphil" <way2phastphil@xxxx> Subject: All AMC car show. All AMC car show, Saturday, Sept. 6, 2003. Framongham, MA. Go to http://www.arcticboy.com/neamc/neamcclub.html for more infor. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:26:37 -0000 From: "way2phastphil" <way2phastphil@xxxx> Subject: Re: Eagle 5-speed into 1972 Gremlin?????? --- In gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Henry Hultquist <onree@xxxx> wrote: > Advice wanted-- > > Eagle transmissions are shorter than non-4 wheel drive AMC trans, to leave room for the transfer case. You would need a transmission from a Concord, Spirit, or other non-4 wheel drive car. Also, the transmission mounts are different on Eagles, as opposed to 2 wheel drive cars. I've got a chance to buy for cheap a wrecked and rusty 1983 Eagle SX4 that > has a 5-speed manual transmission. Will this tranny go into my 1972 Gremlin > 258 six, and replace my 3-speed manual without too much trouble? Are Eagle > trannies somehow different because of the four wheel drive setup? > Thanks for any input. > > Onree ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:36:29 -0700 From: james johnson <rooster1@xxxx> Subject: Re: Re: Eagle 5-speed into 1972 Gremlin?????? i got a 1977 amc 4-speed transmission on ebay auction fer $49.99 plus ship'n.. handl'n..pack'n..insurance..ebay item number is #2431047422..i liv in klamath falls, oregon.97603..this price includes the transmission..bellhousing..clutch..pressure plate..its ready to install into what ever ur goin to put it into.. thanks james- {onehorsetrader}.. or you can "buy it now" on ebay fer $60.00 way2phastphil wrote: > --- In gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Henry Hultquist <onree@xxxx> > wrote: > > Advice wanted-- > > > > Eagle transmissions are shorter than non-4 wheel drive AMC trans, > to leave room for the transfer case. You would need a transmission > from a Concord, Spirit, or other non-4 wheel drive car. Also, the > transmission mounts are different on Eagles, as opposed to 2 wheel > drive cars. > > I've got a chance to buy for cheap a wrecked and rusty 1983 Eagle SX4 > that > > has a 5-speed manual transmission. Will this tranny go into my 1972 > Gremlin > > 258 six, and replace my 3-speed manual without too much trouble? > Are Eagle > > trannies somehow different because of the four wheel drive setup? > > Thanks for any input. > > > > Onree > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxx > Subscribe: gremlintime-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx > Unsubscribe: gremlintime-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx > List owner: gremlintime-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/gremlintime > Gremlintime(Home of the AMC Gremlin on the WWW): > http://www.geocities.com/gremlintime > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:18:29 -0500 From: "Karla Dick" <luvdmouse57@xxxx> Subject: Re: Re: swing outs - Comments from a new Gremlin Time Member Speaking of seeing Gremlins on TV, Norbert & I watched Bad Boys on Satellite the other night. We about cried when they ran into (& destroyed) a Gremlin. Karla °o° ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:15:49 EDT From: rockwithxs@xxxx Subject: Re: 77 Gremlin X ? Try this web page for info - it's a Gremlin owners must have bookmark! http://gremlinx.com/ In a message dated 9/4/2003 6:07:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, olinger@xxxx writes: Hi, I new to Gremlins but my son just started restoring a 1977 Gremlin. My questions is how do you identify the X package on the 77s. There is no emblems left, and wheels have been changed. It does have the sport steering wheel and original tire warranty card says gremlin x. Any help appreciated. Also is the rear glass rubber avaible? Thanks Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 21:37:27 -0700 From: "bobm" <bob.medina@xxxx> Subject: Re: Subject: How much is gas in your city? happy labor day coos bay oregon s.w.or $1.95.9 per gal. > i just went and bought gasoline here in southern oregon paid $2.17 gal. james- > > Mildred McClain wrote: > > > It is $1.67 in Ky. > > Mildred > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:00:26 -0700 From: james johnson <rooster1@xxxx> Subject: Re: 77 Gremlin X ? mr steve in va.. give james{onehorsetrader}in oregon a phone call asap ok.. james- rockwithxs@xxxx wrote: > Try this web page for info - it's a Gremlin owners must have bookmark! > http://gremlinx.com/ > > In a message dated 9/4/2003 6:07:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, > olinger@xxxx writes: > Hi, > I new to Gremlins but my son just started restoring a 1977 > Gremlin. My questions is how do you identify the X package on the > 77s. There is no emblems left, and wheels have been changed. It does > have the sport steering wheel and original tire warranty card says > gremlin x. Any help appreciated. Also is the rear glass rubber > avaible? > Thanks > Steve > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Community email addresses: > Post message: gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxx > Subscribe: gremlintime-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx > Unsubscribe: gremlintime-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx > List owner: gremlintime-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.onelist.com/community/gremlintime > Gremlintime(Home of the AMC Gremlin on the WWW): > http://www.geocities.com/gremlintime > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 12:37:36 -0400 From: rockwithxs@xxxx Subject: Re: Subject: How much is gas in your city? happy labor day In a message dated 9/4/2003 7:34:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, luvdmouse57@xxxx writes: > I paid $1.62 today. Sometimes it's great to live in KS! > > Karla °o° Yep, until the wind starts a blowin'.... Charlie ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:16:49 -0700 (PDT) From: CJ <redneck2212@xxxx> Subject: Re: 77 Gremlin X ? Steve, Im restoring a 76 and it's a V6 and not an X. An X usually has a 401 or a 304 V8 motor, how r u doing on parts? if u need any I have a email address that has parts for Gremlin's if u need it good luck. redneck2212 Steve Olinger <olinger@xxxx> wrote: Hi, I new to Gremlins but my son just started restoring a 1977 Gremlin. My questions is how do you identify the X package on the 77s. There is no emblems left, and wheels have been changed. It does have the sport steering wheel and original tire warranty card says gremlin x. Any help appreciated. Also is the rear glass rubber avaible? Thanks Steve Yahoo! 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SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:27:14 -0000 From: "robot_tank" <robot_tank@xxxx> Subject: Re: swing outs - Comments from a new Gremlin Time Member BMP, Oh man! did you ever hit the nail on the head. The first car show I took my Gremlin to this year, I parked it then sat across from the car insead of behind it as always. This way I could hear the comments people were making and they didn't know it was my car...unless the dorks didn't notice the big Gremlin on the front of my T-shirt. Anyway, most people would walk by it and not say a word. Some would look at it and kind of giggle, others did like it. There was this one jerk in particular who was there with his daughter propogating the AMC myths to her. She asked what kind of car it was and who made it. This ass told her it was a Gremlin that was made by American Motors who made all kinds of stupid looking junky cars. He was my 'Dork of the Day' award winner. I started to get up when my wife pulled me back down and said to chill. I wasn't going to do anything to him, I just wanted to know which car at the show was his (I'm sure he was a specatator with a Pontiac Aztek) and find out what he really knew about the car and AMC. I was a bit pissed though. After about half an afternoon of this garbage, I packed up and left before it was over. People are just not ready to accept the Gremlin as a 'collector' car. I'm not sure they ever will. I drive mine because I enjoy it and like the unique style of the car. I guess this guy and the multituldes like him have never really looked at some of the style of cars coming out of the orient. Hondas, Hundai's etc... they've all made hatchback styles that could be small twins to the Gremlin yet they don't bad mouth those cars like they still do the Gremlin. To me it just goes to show that the Gremlin's style was about 20 years ahead of its time and still might be. Once again, AMC was too far advanced for people to handle... even the Eagle was about 10 years too early before the SUV kick really took hold. I'm tempted to get a personal plate for my Eagle that says '1st SUV' if the reg fees in this stupid state don't double in Oct like they say they well to fixed our FUBAR'd state budget. In this case the 'jerk sorter outer' worked all day long. I don't care. It does not shake my enjoyment of driving a car that is totally different than the run of the mill bellybutton car. I've never been one to go along with the crowd - I always do what I want to do not what happens to be popular at the time. Keep on Grem'in! Tom --- In gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ecurbpope@xxxx wrote: > Kevin, > > I agree with you. I have been telling "nae sayers" for years the time of the > Gremlin is going to happen someday. The cars are incredibly strong and yes > they are cool. Its just "trendy" to jump on the idiot band wagon to knock them. > Especially if the person hops into a Pontiac Aztek afterword. > > I also think the disdane for Gremlins is what makes it a "in your face" car. > I have been amazed at the gall some people have when they hear you have a > Gremlin and scoff. It is a "Lemming" reaction if you ask me. I also tend to judge > them as people who can only drive cars that are "acceptable" to other people. > Sounds to me like they never got a handle on the peer pressure aspect of life. > > > The advantage to owning a Gremlin is its like owning a "personality > detecter." If people walk up to it an treat you with respect its a pretty good > indication they have their heads "screwed on " correctly. If they sidestep social > courtesy and start to insult your choice in life, it usually means your dealing > with a person who is a jerk. Its nice to have a machine that helps you sort out > the good people from the jerks, and its all done automatically. You can stand > next to it and it just happens by itself! You don't have to plug it in or > recharge it and there is no limit to how many people it sorts out. What a > marvelous machine. A jerk "sorter outer." And we thought they were just cars!!!!!! > > Thanks and have a nice one. > > BMP > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 18 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:55:19 EDT From: hallosey@xxxx Subject: Re: Re: Eagle 5-speed into 1972 Gremlin?????? Or yoou could lenghten the drive shaft [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 19 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:36:46 -0000 From: "robot_tank" <robot_tank@xxxx> Subject: Gremlin Pictures Posted Hello all, I posted some pics of my Gremlin X in the photo section. Take a minute and check them out! Posted in 'Robot_tank's Gremlin X' folder. Regards, Tom '73 Gremlin X 401/auto ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 20 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:36:57 EDT From: MagicGaliquogi@xxxx Subject: Re: Starter Problems Oh My!! I finally got it going!! I ordered a new starter and also replaced the cable that goes from the solenoid to the starter!! She started right up and purrs like a kitten!! The guys at the NAPA store said the were placing bets on whether I would get it going or not and whether it was the starter or not! NOW the other small problem I have it this.... The vaccum wiper motor.. I replaced the tubing and that helped some. I think I am going to take it apart and clean it and see if that helps. I have plenty of vaccum so its not that. It acts like it wants to go but doesnt.... I want to clean it first before I replace the wiper motor. Those arent cheap! Rebecca > I was not following this thread, but are we sure that it is not the relay > that is the culprit? > Charlie > In a message dated 9/4/2003 3:03:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, > MagicGaliquogi@xxxx writes: > In a message dated 9/3/2003 8:19:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > >Re: My starter is dead > > > >Went through the same journey with my friend's Spirit > >recently. Replacing the starter's a snap, but you may > >want to check the ignition switch as that turned out > >to be the culprit in the Spirit. It's a cheaper part > >and you won't be near anything that'll drop gunk in > >your eye. Theoretically. > > > > I got my starter put back in after I took it down to have it tested, they > tore it apart and said that something was bent inside but they fixed it and > it > worked great. I got back home with it, put it back in and OF COURSE it didnt > > work again!!! So I said forget this, order me a new one. So we will see > what > happens. I replaced the solinoid, so I know its not that... > > Uuuugggggg > > Rebecca > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 21 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:41:30 EDT From: MagicGaliquogi@xxxx Subject: Gremlins, pintos and vegas In a message dated 9/5/2003 1:12:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Thought I'd try my hand at posting to the group. I've been an AMC > owner for over 15 years, and have had a few of them. I've always > liked Gremlins even when they were first introduced in 1970. I was > only 9 years old but I liked the style. I tried to get my dad to buy > one late in '70 but he came home with a Pinto. Oh well... least it > wasn't a Vega!! :X I love vega's!! I have a 1970 AMC Gremlin and a 1979 pinto wagan and a 1980 pinto wagan. You should see the look on peoples faces when they see my 1980 pinto wagan.. I spray painted it that dull camo green. Popped all the emblems off of it. Painted the fenders and grill black.. Then I got the emblems off a jeep grand cherokee 4x4. I glued the two cherokee emblems on either side in front and the 4x4 emblem on the back lift gate!! People have actually asked me if it was four wheel drive!! OMG.. I just laugh.. I am a cherokee indian and that is why I put the cherokee emblems on it.. It is so cute!! I do love my 1970 Gremlin. I have always wanted one and this is in such great shape. The dashboard is perfect. No cracks, nothing missing, everything works, etc. The interior is good. I dont like the red but thats life!! My gremlin is black with the red stripe and red interior. Rebecca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 22 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:45:27 EDT From: MagicGaliquogi@xxxx Subject: Re: What's a Gremlin worth? In a message dated 9/5/2003 1:12:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > I guess people put a different value on things. > That's the bottom line. The inherent value of anything lies not within the > object(s), but the owner. The purist auto officiate (whatever that is) may > laugh at the Gremlin, or find it undesirable. But, I really don't give damn > - I > ain't restoring mine for anyone but me. And, it turns heads. And, it pisses > the motor heads off at the shows when people gather around the Gremlin. And, > I > love it! Worth nothing? Au contraire! > Charlie I have seen gremlins in restoreable shape on ebay go for alot more than I paid for mine. Mine is in very good shape, especially for a 1970..!! Mine still has the original specs emblem on the firewall and it is perfect and readable!! The guy was asking $1500 for it, which was a great price for a car in such great shape! I noticed that the starter was dragging a bit and the clutch was going out.. I brought up these things and got the car for $1275!! I couldnt believe he went for it... I have put maybe $200 into it with the clutch parts and starter... Some waxing and it is ready for the car show!! Rebecca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 23 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:46:34 EDT From: MagicGaliquogi@xxxx Subject: Re: How much is gas in your city? happy labor day In a message dated 9/5/2003 1:12:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gremlintime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > How much is gas in your city? happy labor day > > I paid $1.62 today. Sometimes it's great to live in KS! > > Karla °o° I am so hurt! lol... I paid 1.99 9/10 to fill up the gremmie about three hours ago! uuugggg Rebecca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 24 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:47:52 EDT From: MagicGaliquogi@xxxx Subject: Re: Subject: How much is gas in your city? happy labor day > Subject: How much is gas in your city? happy labor day > > i just went and bought gasoline here in southern oregon paid $2.17 gal. > james Geeezzz James.. I live in Eastern Oregon. About three hours east of Bend, Oregon and I only paid 1.99 9/10. Rebecca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 25 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:50:06 EDT From: ecurbpope@xxxx Subject: Re: Re: Starter Problems Hi Rebbeca, I also have a gremlin that has a vacuum wiper motor. ( sounds funny calling it a motor when theres no motor). It has a piece of "corkish" type of material that dries out and looses vacuum. If you take the "unit" apart, you will notice the inside has a very smooth surface the "cork" piece goes over. Make sure you clean it up and then you will have to find a lubricant that will reconstitute the cork without deteriorating it. OOORRRR I saw someone on the web that rebuilds and refurbishes them but I can't recall where. When I went to the site I had the impression like, No Problem , We Fix Em And We Have Plenty In Stock. 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