Even here in Maine I made a small mistake when I went to register my Hornet after I bought it 12 years ago. I put $400 down on it on a Friday and the owner gave me a bill of sale stating that it would be paid in full when I picked it up the next day. I paid the extra $300 the next day and she gave me a filled out bill of sale. I drove it the 50 miles home on thier plates. Afew days later I went to the DMV with only the first part of the bill of sale. They needed to see the rest so I had to go back the next day with the right paperwork. The DMV is 25 miles from where I live. Tempted to register it as antique, but still have it as regular car. Antique autos in Maine do not need state inspections. Regular cars do.
--- On Sun, 3/11/12, Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: AMC title problems/ Re: 2 years later...
To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2012, 7:49 AM
Another story similiar to Terry's but good ending: I bought a salvage vehicle, 69 Javelin from Ten Acres Auto Parts in 1980s, and restored it. 68 343/AT, beautiful little car. Salvage title but later got good Texas title. After showing it and driving it for about 5 years sold it to a guy who used to see it (along with many of my other AMXs & Javelins I drove to work at Dirty's near Galleria here in Houston) but sold it to a customer.
He enjoyed the car and drove it but being a kid, (I was in 30s, he was barely 20) he didn't take care of it. I got a certified letter from Houston Police that my car was in storage yard and going to be auctioned. He hadn't changed title in the 2 years since I sold it to him, so guess was driving around with expired tags after that 1 year. I decided to go take a look at it was saddened to see it in such disrepair, windshield busted, door glass on driver side broke out, car filled with water from heavy rains, long scrape down passenger side, bumpers both bent, good push in on driver 1/4, so just stood there in rain looking at this poor thing, could not believe it was same car.
Since....the guy had never changed title into his name, it was, theroetically, my car still. So walked up to auto storage booth to see what I needed to claim the car. He said 'driver license if it in your name' and brought it out, paid the $133.00 and asked how much for one of his drivers to inflate 1 of the tires and drag it to my house. $55 more.
Got the car home and that afternoon put another windshield in it, changed out door, put another door glass in it, straightened out 1/4 on one side and replaced bumpers on it from spares in warehouse. Started to look better, also opened up plugs on floor to let out swamp water. Put battery in it, primed carb, checked fluids and a blast of starter fluid and the 343 4 barrel roared to life. Not lot of life sounds like it needed big time tune up which I did. I primered the car over weekend and wet vaced interior, taking battery out so doors open in full summer sun to get out stench and dampness.
3 weeks later I went to DMV & got new title for $5. Car was streetworthy so drove it around and had someone offer me $1500 for it so sold it. Ironically about 12 years after that it popped up in auto trader for sale for $1500, then in sad twist of fate, ended up somehow back at Ten Acres Auto Salvage where I heard about it, went out and took photos of it one last time before hitting crusher. Sad end to that nice car, but good that dumbass never changed title so was able to reclaim it for less than $200 and several other owners enjoyed it afterwards.
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Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 2 years later...
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That is what happen to my son. He had an old Fairmont that he sold for $500. The guy came by on a Saturday and offered him cash but he wanted it that day. So they went to a notary and did a bill of sale on the car. The driver said he would transfer it Monday never did transfer it . Well about three months later he gets a certified letter in the mail that he had to show that he had insurance or financial responsibility because his car was in a wreck and the driver of his car was at fault. In the great state of Kentucky it is the owner of the car who is financially responsible for the car since it is a law that you must have insurance. My son thought it was no big deal so he takes his bill of sale to the county clerks office to show he sold the car and they told him it wasn't worth the paper it was written on. Not wanting to go to jail he went to a lawyer. The lawyer said at least he had a copy of the bill of sale but since
it wasn't the original a judge wouldn't accept it. They had to summons the Notary and the witnesses who signed the original to court when the trial started to prove he sold the car. They did and a very pissed off judge dismissed the charges after he gave my son an angry lecture on the correct way to sale a car. So between court cost and lawyer fees it cost him $2500 so the car he sold for $500 ended up costing him $2,000.
Terry
--- On Sat, 3/10/12, Tom H <bigrigbear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Tom H <bigrigbear@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 2 years later...
To: "BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, March 10, 2012, 7:28 PM
And to add to the discussion about removing yourself from the title/registration, (at least here in California) IMMEDIATELY on selling a vehicle, even as a trade, fill out the Release Form, copy it for your records, and mail it a.s.a.p. to the DMV. If any info is missing, such as full name, FULL address ect. they can reject it as if it was never submitted. A long gone car can come back and bite you for unpaid tickets, storage, impound, towing, police investigation, accident liability and many more fun fun fun things that will cost you in time if not money!
Voice of Experience
From: Davis Martin <martin-davis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 2 years later...
Terry, I couldn't have said it any better! Davis
From: Terry Atkins <twa1950@xxxxxxxxx>
To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, March 9, 2012 5:34:55 PM
Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 2 years later...
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I would think your only recourse would be to take the executor of the estate to court. I am afraid that car still legally belongs to the estate. Of course it would had been a lot easier if you would have done this two years ago when the estate was still open. I know when you got a piece of paper you think the car is yours but I know you guys remember the story of the truck driver I used to work with that bought a 57 Chevy from a guy. He got all the paper work for it so he started working on it. A couple of years and 10 to 15 thousand dollars latter he decided to get it transferred over to his name only to find out it had a lien against it. He went to the loan company to pay off the I think $2,000 loan only to be told they would only deal with the guy who took out the loan. That person was in jail and told the guy I worked work he didn't give a crap. So it was soon after that the loan company sent a wrecker to haul it
away. I think he went to court or at least saw a lawyer about it. He was told the only thing they could do was to order the guy who was in jail to give him the $2000 he paid for it back. The last time he saw the Chevy the manager of the loan company was driving it. I just can't say how important it is if you buy a car make sure you get it your name right away.On the same line if you sale one make sure it is out of your name. Ask my son how a car that he sold for $500 cost him a couple of thousand to get out of the legal problems it caused him.
Terry --- On Fri, 3/9/12, Pj <pjtheurer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Pj <pjtheurer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 2 years later...
To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 10:09 AM
Ohio wont do it, they say the paperwork I got when I purchased the car was filled out incorrectly and not by the proper person. Apparently the executor of an estate cannot legally transfer their abilities to another person and have someone else do the work for them. (according to the State of Ohio DMV) --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tom McKenna" <traveler@...> wrote: > > Excellent advice Davis - Also, some states will allow you to register the vehicle if you can provide proof of purchase and a notorized affadavit - and it may not always be common knowledge, so check with your motor vehicles licencing people in your state capital. > > > tom > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Davis Martin > To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] 2 years later... > > > > > You need a bill of sale from a non tittle state. Sell it to someone you know in a non tittle state and buy it back from them. > Davis > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > From: Pj <pjtheurer@...> > To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thu, March 8, 2012 11:17:08 AM > Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] 2 years later... > > > And I still have not been able to obtain a title for a vehicle I purchased from the collection in Texas.. > > Texas DMV has no record of the 71 Hornet Sportabout
that i purchased EVER having been titled in the state of Texas. > > All the $$ I put into the car, all of the paperwork I got when i bought it is all worthless. > > I'm ready to send the car to the crusher and cut my losses. I'm so pissed off. > > As a last ditch effort, I'm willing to go thru one of those title companies that get you titles for classic cars that dont have one. > > The question is who do I go thru? > > OR who wants to save a low mileage Sportabout from being destroyed? > > I've got nearly $4K in the car. > > please contact me via e-mail if interested or have any advice. > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4858 - Release Date: 03/08/12
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