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 Yes, had to push brake then button to start so not sure how Jacob, who is 
8, did that. Also don't explain how he started it in parking lot of hotel we 
stayed at, as I was not near car. Some other oddities, the doors would sometimes 
lock and unlock mysteriously. The key fob thing had a lock, unlock and trunk 
deal on it. But inside car would lock automatically. So kept door open while at 
beach. Reading a Nissan site a mechanical key could never start a 'intelligent 
key' ignition car (push button ignition) though. I never saw a key of any type 
unless it was inside the fob, but like under hood, never looked for it. The 
remote lock/unlock thing seemed to have a range of 15 feet however as the kids 
had lots of fun with that option making it chirp from distance.  Was neat 
car but would never own one it's not AMC powered! Paige did panic when locked 
key fob thing inside trunk and even considered calling Hertz for advise, but her 
phone was inside trunk, along with fishing bait, tackle and cooler however, but 
being old school I eventually found a tiny lever bottom of dash to release trunk 
open.    And I honestly don't think the inside trunk release is a good thing, to me, 
it is sad reflection of society with kidnappings and carjackings.    Before this thread gets way off base with non AMC crap....have to add AMC 
stuff to it as per Jim Stone's amc-list rules from last century (anyone ever 
hear from him anymore?). Sold my 81 Eagle 4x4 wagon with the 4cyl, 4spd, it will 
be driving around Ypsilanti, Michigan. No push button dash dealie, no gas door 
release rod to step on, no push button anything except AMC AM/FM radio though. 
Horn is push button also if that counts...... 
  ----- Original Message -----  
 Eddie, 
  sorry but your way off base on that button. It only works if the key 
  fob/keyless entry is in the front seat area.
 Then you have to put your foot 
  on the brake and hold it or no start.
 Try to lock key in the car? nope, 
  won't let you.
 Try to lock key inside car? nope won't let you.
 if you 
  shut the car off and push the button to leave the radio on that is pretty much 
  the only thing that stays on.
 Once that FOB is outside the car it won't 
  start.
 
 The damn things are big cars as far as I'm concerned.
 You 
  drove that car, did you realize it did all that running with a 2.5L 4 and a 
  constant variable trans?
 
 My wife bought one, we have had it for a 
  couple of years and not one single issue. NONE
 24-26 mpg in town, 30-34 on 
  open highway.
 
 If you look at the serial number and it says 1N then you 
  got yourself a genuine made in America Nissan.
 Probably has about the same 
  amount of U.S. content as the new "big three's".
 
 On the Altima 
  note.
 Wife bought a new 98 loaded, leather, everything.
 She put over a 
  100K on it, odometer broke at 139K when my son was driving it.
 A year later 
  i put a used cluster in it.
 Using my poor math skills it has a minimum of 
  165K, probably 175+
 It shakes rattles and rolls, it needs motor mounts, 
  struts and that is all.
 Has a ricer exhaust on it my son installed. I drive 
  it now since it gets 24-26 or so compared to 14.8 on summer blend fuels in my 
  Grand Cherokee. It's a POS, but it just keeps on going. Wife said to sell it, 
  nah, it puts 5 vehicles on a 4 driver household
 which believe it or not 
  dropped our insurance by $400!
 
 I don't want one, but in our extended 
  family, My BIL and his two daughters have three Altimas, my wifes makes four, 
  her cousin makes 5 and his has an honest 160K on it! 2008 models all of them, 
  one 2009.
 For a certain part of  the market Nissan hit 
  the nail square on the head, or so it seems.
 
 Mark 
  Price
 markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxx
 Morgantown,WV 26508
 "who said 
  that?"
 
 
 From: 
    "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: 
    amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: 
    Friday, August 26, 2011 8:59:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [AMC-list] AMC 
    V8 Heat Riser
 
 I have a confession to make, I rented a Nissan Altima a 
    few weeks ago to drive down to
 Corpus Christi to visit brother. Good 
    running car, great AC system, great gas mileage too.
 No key. That's 
    right no key, you have little alarm thingie on chain that opens doors,
 locks doors, opens trunk and that is it. Once car is opened, ANYONE can 
    start car as I
 found out when 8 year old Jacob pressed ignition switch. 
    My first thoughts were 'uh,
 didn't RAMBLER have this push button crap on 
    dash in early 1906s?' Second thought was
 anyone could steal the car and 
    I'm used to leaving my windows open on my AMCs...it is no
 big deal, and 
    dissipates heat inside car and not like anyone will steal a AMC.
 
 But 
    once car is unlocked, even seagull could start car, didn't like that 
    feature. I
 believe this was a 4 banger something under hood, never 
    bothered to look, unusual for a
 car guy, but never looked and not sure 
    why. Something that really creeped me out on the
 Nissan Altima was 
    inside the trunk has a 'emergency release' to pull in case you are
 carjacked and kidnapped and thrown in trunk. Think about 
    that.
 
 Something else on the car I see problems with is the gas door 
    release lever is next to
 scuff plate on driver door, who is idiot who 
    put that there. Never mind, whoever idiot
 designer or enginess was might 
    be brilliant....as millions will break this little plastic
 piece of junk 
    simply getting in or out of car....therefore Nissan will sell millions of
 those flimsy plastic gizmos. Otherwise nice car, good room in trunk, 
    inside car, kids
 liked the fadeaway courtesy lights inside car. The only 
    reason I rented this Datsun Altima
 was because they were out of Chevy 
    Malibus.
 
 One more thing, AMC was in talks with Datsun in late 1970s. 
    Think about that.....if AMC
 had teamed up with Datsun, as opposed to 
    Renault, better than average chance AMC would
 still be around in some 
    format. Best of all, our push button dash dealies would be in
 vogue 
    again.
 Eddie 
    Stakes
 713.464.8825
 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 www.planethoustonamx.com
 
 ----- 
    Original Message -----
 From: "Armand Eshleman" 
    <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 
 
 > Consider rain headed your way, 
    you can have all our excess humidity too for that matter.
 > Engine 
    heaters were very important up here years ago when carbureted engines were 
    the
 > norm, and what with that pesky 30 below crap always honkin on 
    our hindends. now that the
 > Germans got us all on fuel injection and 
    computer monitored we do't need em any more so
 > I guess your 
    collection might just stay yours for some time. Don't think carbs of the
 > fuel handlin kind are comin back anytime soon, however carbs of the 
    beer variety are
 > close at hand,
 > Tank care Eddie 
    :-)
 >
 > Armand
 >>I have started AMCs in 20 degree 
    weather, and yes, takes a few minutes to warm up, but
 >>probably 
    because I disconnect chokes on all my cars also, along with no heat riser.
 >>Today however didn't hit 100 degrees, woohoo/.....first day THIS 
    MONTH not 100 degrees
 >>all time record. On other hand supposed to 
    hit 107-110 Fri/Sat/Sun as dry air filters in
 >>behind hurricane 
    Irene, so heats up really quick....on top of our 'worst drought in
 >>history' now, the ground has cracks big enough to park Pacers 
    in.
 >>
 >> But no, don't know what 30 degree below zero is 
    but DO have a pile of NOS AMC & Rambler
 >> Engine Block 
    Heaters for no reason. Not for sale just stuff I 
    collect.
 >>
 >> Thanks for explanation below on what heat 
    riser actually does in climates where you
 >> have uh, seasons that 
    change. I always though it was good only to squeak at in
 >> 
    opportune times when trying to impress a woman or impress guy next to you in 
    car he
 >> thinks is fast, only to rev engine and have rattle & 
    squeak make it sound like AMC
 >> needs big wind up key on back 
    turned again. They also are good to paint & give kids if
 >> 
    too cheap to buy LEGOs. Look like could be good fishing weights too perhaps! 
    Now send
 >> us some rain.
 >> Eddie Stakes
 >> 
    713.464.8825
 >> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 >> 
    www.planethoustonamx.com
 
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