I'm not sure what a '4 banger Wankel' is, but there's some power *available* in them. The 13B dual stack is around 140hp, pretty much stock. The 20B three-stack can be easily fitted with twin-turbos and get a pretty dependable 600hp ;-) And these engines are WAY lighter than Jeep I-6 or AMC V8s by a long way. Which is why some homebuilders use them in airplanes. I am told that the SBC fits in a Pacer easier and better than even their own 360/401... but I dunno. The only reason I was interested in a front wheel drive for a Pacer (rotary or otherwise) is just because that's what it started out to be. Kind of a 'redemption' process to go back and make a few things right. But sure, I totally agree. V8 is a better choice than a I6 if a guy wants a hot Pacer. Heck, a V8 is a better choice for about EVERYTHING ;-) L. > -----Original Message----- > From: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eddie Stakes > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:23 PM > To: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: Pacer motor mounts oddities > > Agreed, they had to change from plan a to plan b on the fly. > As for underpowered, I am not > sure that the 4 banger Wankel engine would have been > sufficient for the Pacer. I think the > V8 early on would have been best choice, it is what Randall > AMC in Mesa, AZ was doing, and > AMC flew out some brass to check out the conversions, and > figured if they can do it, AMC > can do it at the factory and rest is history: > > http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/randall-gremlin-xr.htm > > Eddie Stakes > 713.464.8825 > eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.planethoustonamx.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "LarryS" <vision1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:21 AM > Subject: RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: Pacer motor mounts oddities > > > > But when you figure the Pacer was never supposed to HAVE > the Jeep engine, > > the lack of interchangability makes a lot more sense. > > > > It was *supposed* to get the fancy, new, rotary engine in > *front wheel > > drive* -- a configuration, I might add, that does not exist > domestically > > even to this day. > > > > Remember, too, that the 40Mil included not just the initial > work, but all > > the re-tooling and re-engineering to PUT that I-6 in there > -- ain't cheap. > > They couldn't even use a 4cyl, the car was too heavy! Even > with the 6, it's > > a relative dog, but the cornering is wonderful (for the > time) and the ride > > is nice so the straight-line laziness was kinda easy to overlook. > > > > I had always wanted to do the FWD thing to a Pacer and if I > could find a > > decent coupe body (I have a wagon), I'd carve FWD into it > (perhaps a 3.8 gm > > setup). In the doing, I'd carve out the huge tunnel, too, > front seat AND > > back. It would be very cool, IMO, and be slackjaw > impressive to any other > > Pacer owner -- it'd look like it was always supposed to > have looked ;-) > > Flat floors, and wide open spaces. > > > > Or, I might ditch these Pacers altogether. There's an old > farmer with an > > old fastback Marlin (67 or so?) about 4 miles from me. I > might see if he's > > emotionally attached to that thing. It didn't look all > that bad, really. > > Might drop a 460 in it just to be different. > > > > L. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: BaadAssGremlins-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx BaadAssGremlins-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/