Good reading although gloomy but at least gave AMC credit where credit due. Eh, ok, there is a photo of a Gremlin also: http://wizbangblue.com/2008/11/13/can-detroit-really-be-saved-history-isnt-good.php Appears that people are really unsure as to what UAW workers actually make too: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081119131456AA39r1x But many press release reports say "on average" which to me at least, includes everything: http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=39499 Eddie Stakes 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:BaadAssGremlins-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:BaadAssGremlins-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/