Oh well. We will just have to agree to disagree. I'm running some deep 17x11.50s T-Thrust style wheels with M/T r's in the rear and 17x8's in the front. The rear have a 3-4" lip and set the car off Nicely I think. >From Behind it looks like Steam roller. Its lowered about 1" ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:BaadAssGremlins-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:BaadAssGremlins-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/