I tried installing just the bushings in the eyelet, and tightening up the shackles. The busihngs did tighten up some in the eyelet, but I felt it was still a little loose. Then I got the idea of putting just a strip of the red rubber in the eyelet with the bushings, insted of making a full sleeve. When I put in about a 1" wide strip and installed the bushings, things tightened up pretty nicley without getting too snug. I was able to rotate the shackle about the bolts by hand, which is something I couldn't do with the full red rubber sleeve. So, I'm thinking that this is the way to go. Any comments? Thanks, Dan --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dan M." <vegadan@...> wrote: > > Ok, I just got off of the phone with Espo and I'm not sure what to > do. According to the person that I talked to, the leaf eyelets are > made with a tolerance of about +/- 1/16". I guess that all > manufactured items have tolerances, but it seems a little excessive > since the bushing pretty much giggles around in the eyelet. I was > told that once the shackles are tightened, the bushing will expand > to make up the space. Supposedly, they have answered this question > before, and have never had a problem. Now I'm wondering if my "fix" > is the right thing to do (after it's already in the car!). When I > said that adding the red rubber made things snug, I really meant > snug! The only way that the the bolts would pivot inside the > busings (even after adding grease to be able to assemble them) was > once the springs were bolted in, the weight of the car forced the > spring flat so that the shackle would rotate around the shackle > bolts. I will check the "bushing expansion" theory tonite. > > Dan > --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dan M." <vegadan@> wrote: > > > > Doc, my car is a 6/4 speed amx. It doesn't have a front sway > bar. > > I was thinking of adding both a front and a rear sometime down the > > road. The car is not really fast, but it is a lot of fun to > drive. > > Plus, I have plans for some minor mods for some extra hp. > > > > Onree, you are correct, this is a question that I will contact > Espo > > about, since I bought everything from them. Unfortunately, they > > won't be in their office until Monday, and I was hoping to get the > > car on the road this weekend. I imagine that I would have to wait > > for them to send me another pair of springs, or bushings that will > > fit the ones that I have, but I figure that as long as my solution > > is ok, I will get it together this weekend, and then call them on > > Monday and see where it goes. > > > > Thanks for all the input guys. > > > > Dan > > > > --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Onree <onree@> wrote: > > > > > > This may seem obvious, but why not address this question to the > > folks at > > > ESPO??? Did you get the bushings from ESPO also? Suppliers get > > away with > > > this stuff because we let them. > > > Onree > > > > > > > > > on 4/28/06 11:36 PM, Dan M. at vegadan@ did write: > > > > > > > Ok. I got home today and my new springs were there to greet > > me! I > > > > was so excited. I started to put them in, but I realized that > I > > had a > > > > problem. The rear spring eyelet is slightly bigger than the > > lower > > > > shackle bushing. The eyelet is about 1 1/16" in diameter, > while > > the > > > > bushing is 1". I measured the old spring's eyelet, and it > > turned out > > > > to be 1" also, so I think maybe Espo made a mistake. So my > > questions > > > > are, has anybody else encountered this, and what did they do? > > > > > > > > I went to the hardware store and got a piece of red rubber, > 1/16" > > > > thick. I fashioned a sleeve that fit inside the eyelet, that > I > > then > > > > slipped the bushing into. It was all very snug, so I had to > use > > > > grease to get it all together. It fit real snug. Any > comments > > on > > > > this solution? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, AMC74HORNET@ wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hey Dan that's what we are all here for to help each other. > > Using old > > > >> springs would have been a waste of time and money. I have had > my > > > > yellow > > > >> 74 Hornet since it was new 32 years ago so I have an idea on > > many > > > >> problems that most Gremlin. Hornet owners have had since I > have > > had > > > >> them. On my 2 1/2 year old orange 74 Hornet project I have > had > > a few > > > > I > > > >> never had on the yellow one. I am still learning after all > these > > > > years > > > >> and being a professional mechanic for over 40 years. > > > >> You will love the new springs. Be sure to use a good brand of > > HD gas > > > >> shocks too, you won't be sorry. > > > >> "Doc" > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/