Ok, can live with that. I think that is where the confusion came/comes from. But the 'sedan' or 'kammback looking thing' Paul original was looking at, that body style hybrid did originate in 79. The Eagle body was indeed a 'Hornet on steroids' (actual comment from drive report) but AMC also was totally focused on presenting this all 'new' car as a four wheel drive American vehicle. It was marketed, and sold, as it's own entity, just like the Jeep line has always been independent no matter who owned the moniker. But read my post carefully, yes the Eagle did indeed debut as a full model line. The SX/4 was a afterthought. So was Sundancer. However one can't count Sundancer as they like a few other AMCs, was a conversion made by Griffith in Florida. There were 17,340 SX/4s made in 81, and 5603 Kammbacks. I don't know how many Eagle Sundancer, or Concord AM-TC Sundancers were made, and don't think anyone knows. In 1980 the Eagle was marketed in AMC Brochures as the American Eagle -- in later years back to the AMC Eagle. AMC logos did begin to fade away in the last two years. The dealer brochure, for '88, which was just a B&W tri fold piece of paper which supplemented the '87 brochure mentions the Eagle available thru the American Motors Sales Corporation. Ever want to have fun, try finding anything for a 'AMC' Eagle at auto parts stores. None of them have anythign AMC for 1988, so you have to go back to 86, 87 if you want parts to see if they stock anything, even simple crap like air filters. Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Rosa" <JohnRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: RE: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: kammback > Eddie, > > I didn't say one body- I said one model line: Concord > (2-door, 4-door and wagon). > > The kammback and SX/4 did NOT come out 'til the next > year...Eagle did NOT debut as a 'full line-up' that > included the latter two. It began Concord-based in 1980, > then added Spirit-based bodies in 1981. > > > John W Rosa > www.JavelinAMX.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > The Eagles started out as a full line. See the photos 1462, 1463, 1464 > here. > The line was introduced as a full line, not one body. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/