Mike Bailey and me have been going back and forth on historical stuff and how much stuff on internet is correct and the pile of dung that is incorrect. What do you say however when the Wisconsin Historical Society has AMC being bought by GM in it's early years (ok, before it was AMC it was Jeffery, however you get the point) so sort of a 4th dimension and a side of AMC I never knew. Actually I wonder how many people have done a research paper and turned this in for a grade. Worse however is this is a HISTORICAL society in AMC's HOME STATE! Yow. So all those Ford people were right, AMC 'never made their own engines' the 'AMC 327 is a Chevy 327' the 'AMC 360 is a Mopar 360' the 'Buick 401 is a AMC 401' ad nauseum. Mike wrote them this: " I just read an entry turned up by a Yahoo Search on "Thomas B. Jeffery". It features an ad for an early Rambler automobile. The copy states that the company was bought by General Motors. In Reality, Charles Nash left the presidency(or CEO, not sure which) of General Motors and purchased Thomas B. Jeffery Company to produce Nash automobiles, which survived until a 1954 merger with Hudson to produce American Motors Corporation (of Kenosha). In 1987, Chrysler under Lee Iacocca bought American Motors. Referring Page: http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/turningpoints/search.asp?id=863 I wonder how much more stuff like that is out there. Without going into auot pilot which I am prone to do, here is a snippet I wrote back to Mike Bailey who asked the Wisconsin Historical Society to correct itself: "Groan, that is part of the problem out there. A bigger problem is that there is more misinformation on the internet that facts; mainly because anyone who has electricity in their double wide trailer with polyester curtains and a redwood fence can post shit. Then someone picks it up as 'fact'. Want more, go to www.snopes.com or www.urbanlegends.com actually might bookmark both. Someone will get stupid out there with email 'my friend is a attorney, and microsoft is tracing emails' or 'shell oil is helping terrorists' or 'mcdonalds serves fried cat' (ok, maybe that last one only in Vietnam) but suddenly these are flying all over world at click on mouse and people believe it." Makes John Mahoney's please a little more urgent for people to get involved, and hopefully do something or down the road, these misconceptions will obviously continue well after all of us are long gone and a few cars remain "that were built by GM for AMC" . Sure, people on here, or any other online place can rehash it and try to correct it, however the bigger damage was already done in my humble opinion. Think about it. Combined all AMC internet sites probably have less than 2500 members. How many people looked at that Historical Site and are "out there" and took that as fact? And like bird flu are walking around now with a reinforced theory that they were right all along "AMC never made own cars/were a division of GM" or whatever. And of course those folks who knew all along those Ford 390s were indeed AMC 390s snugly saying "I told you so!" Overreaction? Hardly, that is a "historical" website. Ok, it has been changed thanks to Mike, so kudos to him. Hopefully in the state where AMC was founded, employed millions thru the years (34,000 in 1974 alone) a little bit more research and help from all of us will clear up the many misconceptions about out Chevy built SC/Ramblers and Pontiac Rebel Machines and Jowett Jupiter Javelins and Hudson Hornets and Dodge Matadors. Eh, go search on those last three, it was their names before "ours" hee hee. That sure was a damned good cup of coffee, I'm ready to drive non stop to Seattle for no reason. On another note, congratulations to National Champs Texas Longhorns! http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/ Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BaadAssGremlins/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BaadAssGremlins-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/