| Harold ya'll getting some of that sleet, freezing 
rain and snow about now up there in panhaldle. Good time to take a AMC out and 
see if heater works, and also how it handles. We have sleet and freezing rain 
forecast for tonight here in west Houston, should be fun. I have to go drop off 
some FedEx packages, taking the 81 Eagle with 4cyl, 4spd for that. Funny thing 
is all those yanquis who have moved here from points north think they know how 
to still drive in this stuff. They are usually the first to eat cement barriers. 
   Second would go to the folks from 'sunny climes' 
which would include Pakistanis, Mexicans, Brazilians, Saudis, and even a lot of 
the Russians we have here, not to mention anyone from Africa 
and ares of Middle East, many of these people have never seen snow and 
ice.   When there was a big sleet like storm years 
ago here, all the stations were telling people to stay off the roads, however, 
for those that didn't there were something like 2500 wrecks in a 24 hour period, 
and cops were telling people unless someone seriously injured or dead, don't 
call them. One reason why so many wrecks is this is 'the bayou city' and 
thousands of bridges all over Harris county, and they iced up 
easily!  
  ----- Original Message -----  Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:29 
  PM Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] sand & 
  Gremlins in snow 
 Onree, I agree as I have driven my 74 gremmie 258 3 speed in every kind of 
  weather there is to experience in Texas, from South of San Antonio to Amarillo 
  to Texarkana, in the 32 years I have owned her and she handles well in 
  everything. There isn't a vehicle made(save a tank) that handles ice well and 
  you should see Texans drive in the rain! Another reason to be glad to be a 
  Yankee.
 Onree <onree@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 I 
    REMEMBER DRIVING MY NEW 1970 GREMLIN IN THE SNOW 35 YEARS AGO--OF COURSE IT 
    WAS MY PRIMARY CAR AT THE TIME. Oops, sorry about the CAPS. The original 
    6.00x13 tires gave kind of a tenuous grip to the pavement , so I did buy a 
    set (5) of Michelin X radials, which made a real difference. I never had any 
    high speed handling problems after that, and no cement in the back.  I 
    always carried (still do) an old army entrenching tool (a short little 
    folding spade)  and a couple of gallon milk jugs full of gravel (better 
    than sand) in the back in the winter, especially (like Hal said) for helping 
    out somebody else. 
 A full gas tank makes a real traction difference 
    with a Gremlin. Simple math--the Gremlin tank holds about 21 gallons, and 
    gas weighs about 8 lbs 4 ozs per gallon, so the difference between a full 
    tank and near empty is over 160 pounds (THE WEIGHT OF TWO BAGS OF 
    CEMENT)--and it's right over the drive wheels.
 
 Fast forward to 
    2005--In the last week--because I'm trying to sell a couple cars and my 
    storage situation is changing--I've had the opportunity to drive both of my 
    Gremlins in the c-c-c-cold and snow/ice. The 1972 (258-3speed) is pretty 
    good. Sometimes need a second gear start to get rolling without spinning the 
    tires. The 1973 (304-auto) is absolutely terrible. Just too much low speed 
    torque and too high an idle speed. All I have to do is let my foot off of 
    the brake for the tires to break loose, and braking is just as bad. What a 
    contrast--so it's hard to make a blanket statement about Gremlins being good 
    or bad in the snow.
 
 I love my four wheel drive Gremlin (also known as 
    an Eagle SX/4) which will go just about anywhere through anything--but you 
    still have to watch out for all the 4x4 pickup and SUV drivers who seem to 
    think it makes their pr*ck longer to drive fast and stupid when it's 
    slick.
 Onree
 
 
 
 on 12/7/05 2:21 PM, 
    eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx at eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx did 
    write:
 
 
 Actually on driving AMCs in the 
      snow, if I can find the photos, there are several Eagles that STILL do 
      duty at several Michigan airports! And yes, in the snow. And AMC's 
      marketing relied heavily on marketing the Eagle Series as snow ready. Here 
      are a number of original brochure photos of Eagles off Arcticboy's 
      website, and there is the Airline car. There is a interesting story behind 
      that as all the SUVs and 4X4s they have at that airport, the Eagle was the 
      only one to not only start, but also worked tirelessly pulling carts, 
      small airplanes, and well, pushing dead vehicles in a major snowstrom they 
      had up there in 2001 I believe it was. Jim Wajda is the prez of the 
      Bricklin club, good fellow, but the article appeared in several magazines, 
      really neat to see:http://www.arcticboy.com/Pages/arcticboyseagle.html
 
 As for Gremlins in snow, 
      nah.....
 Eddie Stakes'
 Planet Houston 
      AMX
 713.464.8825
 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 www.planethoustonamx.com 
      <http://www.planethoustonamx.com>
 
 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bradley Jones 
        <mailto:wagonmasterx5@xxxxxxxxx>
 To: 
        BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 
        2005 1:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [BaadAssGremlins] sand
 
 When I 
        was in high school, my girlfriend had a '72 Gremmy. In deep snow, it 
        couldn't be stopped. On icy or rainy roads it was a little squirrely. 
        She ran biased snow tires all 
        year.
 
 themixtoo@xxxxxxx wrote:
 
 Maybe you shouldn't drive ANY 30year old AMC in the snow 
          (only Doc can because he's a grumpy old Santa). Especialy a Gremlin, 
          no amount of sand in the back (what Back?) will fix your traction 
          problem.     'The Mix' 
       
 
 
 
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