"Dick T's Rehtoric VS Historical Facts"?

["John W Rosa" <JohnRosa@xxxx>]

Bilwin dared to type...
"Dick T's Rehtoric VS Historical Facts"

Richard (Dick) Teague was the VICE PRESIDENT OF STYLING 
at AMC when the two cars were designed. How dare you 
call his first-hand, hands-on knowledge of the history 
of these cars 'rhetoric'! It takes a special kind of 
idiot to dismiss the man that was there building the 
car, to go with your own fantasy version of the events.

Bilwin also challenged...
"So let's hear it, give the chronology that I somehow 
am missing."

I have, below, but you'll call every piece of it 'rhetoric', 
no matter who it comes from if it doesn't agree with your
mysterious, home-made version of the actual events.

Have you noticed that every person answering in this thread 
has told you that you're wrong? Did you miss that, too?

Here are the HISTORICAL FACTS. Start deleting the crap 
you've typed, because this is the real thing.

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AMAZING AMC MUSCLE (c)1988
by Edrie J. Marquez

Page 20
Vice President of Styling Richard A. Teague was the 
man most responsible for the design of AMC models 
from 1964-85."

JR note: So much for poor Dick's 'rhetoric'.

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JAVELIN PHOTO ARCHIVE (c)2002
by C. L. Zinn (owner of one of the very best restored AMXs 
in the world. It's unlikely he'd give away credit to a 
Javelin if it belonged to any form of AMX)

Page 7
"Please keep in mind (contrary to what has been said before)
that the AMX II, as with all the rest of the Project IV cars, 
was strictly a show car. The production cars came off other 
clay models done in-house. The production cars did not come 
from the Project IV cars."

Page 23
"Please note: this car (AMX II) debuted on Monday, June 20, 
1966, at the New York Auto Show as one of the Project IV cars.
This car had absolutely nothing to do with the Javelin. The 
Javelin was in clay back in February and was pretty much 
finished in March before work was even started on this car."

JR note: If you look at photos of the AMX II, you'll see 
it has almost NOTHING in common with a Javelin except four 
tires and a windshield, and even they are nothing like a 
Javelin wore.
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The fact is Project IV was a completely separate operation
from the work being done to create production-type cars.
The only reason Project IV existed was to excite the public 
with wild new ideas and to impress banks that AMC was a 
viable force in the marketplace worthy of financing. NONE 
of the Project IV cars were ever intended to become 
production cars.

And when Javelin, born of regular styling exercises that 
got much less press, became a hit, AMC decided the Project 
IV AMX could be 'faked' using the Javelin as it's base.
Hence, AMXs in all forms had no influence on Javelin.

You go ahead and quote the bad info again. It won't change 
this correct history.

John