-----Original Message----- From: amc74hornet [mailto:AMC74HORNET@xxxx] --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, <badass73gremlin@xxxx> wrote: > > Yes thats him i loath John Bilwin > Bart I see he is now into a muscle car debate and another one as to which came first the 2 seater AMX or the Javelin on the AMX Files. "Doc" ============================================== Yea, I tried to educate him, but that brain is rock-hard. He wants to use 'Muscle car' to wrap every quick US car ever built with. He just called a 4-door Pontiac Parisienne a Muscle Car! YEESH. He won't accept that, like 'Sports Car' and 'Pony Car', there are specific criteria needed to fit into the 'Muscle Car' class. And no single car can be in two of these classes. The best analogy I can give is that you can't call Eminem 'black' just because he performs rap. His skin color is one CRITERIA that doesn't fit into the 'black' term. Similarly, no matter how fast an AMX...or even a Gremlin is, it isn't a Muscle Car. It can be fast, it can be Muscular, and it is a car. But it isn't intermediate sized, and it doesn't seat 5. Therefore, it doesn't fit the original definition. Funny- he waves the 'Muscle' name all over, but never calls a GTO a 'Sports Car'...why is that? Can't be the criteria...he don't care about criteria. And it is Sporty and a car! Hmmm... Somehow, these facts are insulting to him. John Rosa www.JavelinAMX.com P.S. I haven't thought about it much, but since this is the B.A.Gremlins group, I have to guess that V8 Gremlins come under 'Performance Sub- Compacts', for lack of a cooler term (tho I'd have applied 'Pocket Rockets' to them before the Tuner craze started). P.P.S.- Hi Bart!