Armand, I would get one for an automatic car like you were thinking. The 4speed carpet kit has a molded section on the side of the hump for the 4 speed plate that is going to bunch up if you don't have the side mounted shifter installed. The automatic carpet wont have that and typically comes without the hole so you can cut the hole in the correct location when you install the carpet. Since you will have a top loader that is set further back, this will allow you to get it in just the right location so that it looks like it is suppose to. Nick, Alfano Performance 4849-76 st. Kenosha, WI. 53142 262-308-1302 262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends Message: 5 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:16:31 -0500 From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash,Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-list] 1970 Javelin carpet kit Message-ID: <004a01cc8746$72346a80$03fea8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Speaking of carpet kits over the weekend. Here's a question. For a 1970 Javelin that now has a Borg Warner (nee Tremec) T5 manual, which carpet kit would you think would work best? The automatic trans carpet kit or the four speed carpet kit. The T5 shifter comes up almost centered in the hole of the original carpet under the automatic console. The only bad thing is, the hole is huge in the original carpet for the autmatic shifter. I don't get to see many four speed cars around here, so I have no idea where the shifter for a four speed ends up. Might it be alongside the 4 speed and therefore on the side of the tunnel rather than the top? Should I order an automatic trans carpet kit? Thanks for the help. Armand _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com