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First thing to do on the sick engine is pull the plugs. Do they all look the same? Dull gray? White = lean or too hot a plug. Wet = oil or fuel. Gone = major problems :)
You didn't mention what rpm the oil pressure is measured at. Rule of thumb 10psi for 1000rpm. 80 psi is a lot unless you have a high pressure pump or the relief valve is bad. Did you have the heads rebuilt? The first thing that comes to mind is a bad valve seal. Could be oil ring, or compression ring installed wrong or broken. Cam breakin is the most critical part in starting a new engine. A bad cam would definately lay down, but not as you are describing. These are the steps I would take. 
1. Pull plugs and find bad cylinder (s)
2. Compression check to find bad rings or valve seats or scuffed cylinder.
3. Leak down test to help find bad valve seal
Hope this helps...good luck
Eddie Allison

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Today's Topics:

   1. engine help needed (Eddie Stakes)
   2. Chad rules (there's a 232 sitting in front of Traveler)
      (Bruce Griffis)
   3. Re: Chad rules (there's a 232 sitting in front of    Traveler)
      (Ken Ames)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 08:20:03 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: harry bublitz <nash126@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-list] engine help needed
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I'm in need of some engine info.I recently professionally had my 401 rebuilt top to 
bottom.We fired it up ran good with 80 oil pressure. Started it again at this point it 
only has headers on it. We noticed on the left bank header oil is seriously coming out the 
end.The next day i had the dull exhaust completed. fired it up ex-stream smoke pouring out 
both sides it doesn't appear to be blue oily smoke.The engine sounds sick it wont rev up 
to it's full potential sounds like possible a dead cyl. Not at first but now the car wont 
go under it's own power put it in gear it dies. The engine at most has 30 minutes idle an 
revving time. I'm afraid this guy may have possibly way over revved it.Oil pressure now is 
down to 40 pounds. Dose anyone have any ideas on whats going on? Thanks Ed for the use of 
your great site. Harold  nash126@xxxxxxxxxxx  262-903-3993 08/15/2011 02:46:42 AM
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feel free to reply & also copy your reply to Harold who would appreciate any advice & 
thanks in advance to all who might reply.
Eddie Stakes
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:08:45 -0400
From: Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-list] Chad rules (there's a 232 sitting in front of
    Traveler)
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My oldest son and I had a nice Sunday drive yesterday. We borrowed the
work truck, filled it up (80 bucks!) and took a jaunt up to North
Carolina. We did some highway driving on 85, but jumped off and went
sight-seeing along 24 and 27. Pretty country up there.

A little over 7 hours later, we rolled into Chad's drive. Chad and his
son got a nice looking 232 with chrome valve cover and chrome fan onto
a hoist and onto the back of the pickup. Chad threw in extra goodies
that are much appreciated, as well as the engine and transmission
cross-members. Darn, EVERYTHING seemed to be included! (Chad, I
enjoyed meeting you, your wife and your son)

Kevin and I had a nice drive back after putting another 80 bucks into
the truck. I had been trying to eat better, but thoroughly enjoyed the
excuse to stop at fast food places along the way. We left the house
around 5:30AM. We rolled in to the driveway at 10:30PM. Full of
caffeine and sugar from cokes, and full of burgers and chicken and
fries. Vegan diet completely rethought and discarded. Cheeseburgers
thoroughly embraced and enjoyed. (anyone want a kale, spinach,
cucumber and apple drink? I think burgers are much tastier than green
shakes and juices, and have a whole bunch of kale and spinach that is
suddenly and perhaps permanently left over)

Kevin borrowed a hoist from work today, and we unloaded the engine
after work. Rambler is backed in to the garage. 232 and automatic
transmission sitting on a pallet in front of it. Perhaps this weekend
we can pull the 195.6 and make sure the '68 232 will mate up to the
T96. And with that, I might be putting the '65 195.6OHV on the list,
and start looking for a fully synchro'ed 3 speed that would fit the
232. I like manual transmissions, but a full synchro transmission
might be cool, over even over-drive!

So, Traveler, my '65 Rambler - may be sporting new crossmembers and a
new (to her) 232. And I might be looking for a manual transmission at
the South East Regionals.


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 01:05:24 -0600
From: Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Chad rules (there's a 232 sitting in front of
    Traveler)
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Sounds like a pretty good day. 

Ken

Quoting Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx>:

> My oldest son and I had a nice Sunday drive yesterday. We borrowed the
> work truck, filled it up (80 bucks!) and took a jaunt up to North
> Carolina. We did some highway driving on 85, but jumped off and went
> sight-seeing along 24 and 27. Pretty country up there.
> 
> A little over 7 hours later, we rolled into Chad's drive. Chad and his
> son got a nice looking 232 with chrome valve cover and chrome fan onto
> a hoist and onto the back of the pickup. Chad threw in extra goodies
> that are much appreciated, as well as the engine and transmission
> cross-members. Darn, EVERYTHING seemed to be included! (Chad, I
> enjoyed meeting you, your wife and your son)
> 
> Kevin and I had a nice drive back after putting another 80 bucks into
> the truck. I had been trying to eat better, but thoroughly enjoyed the
> excuse to stop at fast food places along the way. We left the house
> around 5:30AM. We rolled in to the driveway at 10:30PM. Full of
> caffeine and sugar from cokes, and full of burgers and chicken and
> fries. Vegan diet completely rethought and discarded. Cheeseburgers
> thoroughly embraced and enjoyed. (anyone want a kale, spinach,
> cucumber and apple drink? I think burgers are much tastier than green
> shakes and juices, and have a whole bunch of kale and spinach that is
> suddenly and perhaps permanently left over)
> 
> Kevin borrowed a hoist from work today, and we unloaded the engine
> after work. Rambler is backed in to the garage. 232 and automatic
> transmission sitting on a pallet in front of it. Perhaps this weekend
> we can pull the 195.6 and make sure the '68 232 will mate up to the
> T96. And with that, I might be putting the '65 195.6OHV on the list,
> and start looking for a fully synchro'ed 3 speed that would fit the
> 232. I like manual transmissions, but a full synchro transmission
> might be cool, over even over-drive!
> 
> So, Traveler, my '65 Rambler - may be sporting new crossmembers and a
> new (to her) 232. And I might be looking for a manual transmission at
> the South East Regionals.
> _______________________________________________
> AMC-list mailing list
> AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com
> 




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