Re: [AMC-list] brakes

[Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

well, sure, the first release is always an improvement,
mine was freebie beta test unit.  they were supposed to send the first release but never did.

Thats what i get for trusting AMC version; beta 0.1

Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508;
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

----- "Ken Ames" <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: "Ken Ames" <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Rambler AMC, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:18:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [AMC-list] brakes
>
> ...or make the 2by the right length so that it holds the pedal down
> when wedged
> against the seat. You then open the bleeder, push the pedal down and
> hold
> against the seat, close bleeder, and then let the pedal back up. No
> seat sliding
> required. 
> 
> 
> >From the driver's side rear, you can use a long 2by and reach the
> pedal and the
> bleeder at the same time. 
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> Quoting Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> > One of my favorite tricks to bleed by myself, no not by cutting!
> > 
> > Cut a piece of 2X4 or other implement about the length between the
> seat
> > bottom face 
> > and the brake pedal, hold it in between, slide the seat forward to
> depress
> > the pedal.
> > Crack the bleeder, tighten, move the seat back and repeat.
> > 
> > Can be a bit of a PIA, but it works, when I built my car the first
> time
> > I had a 2 year old and a baby, neither of which could help me bleed
> brakes!
> > My wife was busy at work most of the time.
> > 
> > The vacuum pump is much easier. 
> > 
> > Mark Price
> > Morgantown, WV 26508
> > 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> > 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> > "I realize that death is inevitable.
> > I just don't want to be around when it happens!"
> > 
> > ----- "tom jennings" <tomj@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: "tom jennings" <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans."
> <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:15:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
> Eastern
> > > Subject: [AMC-list] brakes
> > >
> > > oops, meant to reply to Bill + list.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re:
> > > To: Bill Serckie <realtorbill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > There are pushrods of different length. What I would do is, with
> both
> > > on the
> > > bench, insert the pushrod into each, and make sure the amount it
> > > sticks out
> > > is the same, precisely.
> > > 
> > > You did bench bleed it, right? It's critical, and you can even
> harm
> > > the
> > > master cyl if you do not. It is nearly impossible to do right on
> the
> > > car.
> > > It's a messy PITA but has to be done. The thing has to be
> perfectly
> > > level
> > > (problem #1 in the car) not the tilt angle it operates at.
> > > 
> > > I find that it takes nearly 15 - 20 minutes (!) of pressing in
> with a
> > > fat
> > > screwdriver to purge every single microscopic tiny bubble out of
> the
> > > thing.
> > > 
> > > It's so messy... I finally just got a section of brake line from
> NAPA,
> > > cut
> > > it in half, and bent it such that hte cut ends dip into the
> reservoir
> > > (the
> > > lines are "C" shaped). Clamp the master in a vise, level, insert
> the
> > > two C
> > > shaped lines, fll the resevoir with brake fluid, then with a big
> fat
> > > screwdriver, press the piston in *just one inch* at a time (don't
> > > bottom it)
> > > until every single tiny bubble is gone.
> > > 
> > > I leave the steel bleeding lines in, then move it to the car,
> mount
> > > it, then
> > > take one off at a time and screw in the real brak eline. You'll
> need
> > > to then
> > > bleed the car, front and rear. Sometimes I have to do that twice,
> last
> > > time,
> > > three bleeds! I use a hand vacuum pump type bleeder. Just some
> damn
> > > air
> > > bubble WILL NOT EXIT.
> > > 
> > > Brake stuff is all trickery. None of it is all that hard, just a
> lot
> > > of
> > > annoying little rituals.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Bill Serckie
> > > <realtorbill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the reply...I got it swapped out but had to change
> the
> > > pushrod
> > > > from one master cylinder to the other but now I have absolutly
> no
> > > pedal at
> > > > all.  Is this normal when a non power brake master cylinder is
> > > changer ?
> > > > I realize that I need to bleed the new master cylinder but
> shouldn't
> > >  I have
> > > > at least some pedal ?
> > > >
> > > > *Bill Serckie*
> > > > *Coldwell Banker Real Estate & Mortgage Services*
> > > > *2 River Place Suite "K"*
> > > > *Lansing, IL 60438*
> > > > **
> > > > *Office # (708) 889-2739*
> > > > *Fax #    (708) 360-5787*
> > > > *Cell #    (773) 251-5234
> > > > *
> > > >
> > > >
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