Re: [AMC-list] Big Nut Wrenches and Springs

[Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>]

My only complaint with the Espo springs are the bands. Mine rusted off 
after a couple of years and the ride went to pot. I had a local spring 
shop make up a new set of clamps (I think it was $10 for the bands) and 
the problem is fixed. I don't think my springs settled much but after 12 
or so years, they are holding up fine so far. Someone asked my about 
them once and I put together this page with pictures: 
http://www.mattsoldcars.com/springclips.shtml.

For my wagon, I bought the replacements from Eaton Detroit Spring. Those 
are spendy (about $630 for springs and U bolts) but are made much better 
than the ones from Espo. I haven't installed them yet but I have yet to 
hear a complaint about them.

Matt

On 11/29/2009 7:19 PM, Joe Fulton spouted this sage advice:
> The car sits quite a bit higher, actually level front to rear and I like it.   I don't have the bumpers on yet, but can give you height to the lower valance in a few minutes.  I do expect the car to settle some though.
>
> Joe Fulton
>
> --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Big Nut Wrenches and Springs
> > To: "Rambler AMC, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 4:08 PM
> > I know Matt had the same issue with
> > those elcheapo spring clamps.
> > He got a set of GOOD ones from a local spring shop.
> >
> > Tom should set up a rental on those wrenches :)
> > Still like to get the measurements to the frame rail once
> > things settle down.
> > Now that I think about it, I assume rear bumper height
> > might be close enough, though that adds in factors like
> > front ride hide.
> >
> > Mark Price
> > Morgantown, WV 26508
> > 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> > 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> > "I realize that death is inevitable.
> > I just don't want to be around when it happens!"
> >
> > ----- "Joe Fulton" <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: "Joe Fulton" <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:36:02 PM GMT -05:00
> > US/Canada Eastern
> > > Subject: [AMC-list] Big Nut Wrenches and Springs
> > >
> > > I'm installing the ESPO leaf springs I got recently
> > for my 65
> > > American.  There are no torque specs in the TSM
> > for U-bolts or the
> > > shackle botls so I looked in the 1970 TSM and am using
> > those specs. 
> > > The ESPO springs are not made as well as the factory
> > springs. Among
> > > other things the clamps are cheap steel banding and
> > there are no
> > > rubber tabs protruding through spring plates to hold
> > the insulators in
> > > place.  Furthermore the second spring in the pack
> > is only about 3/4 of
> > > the length of the factory plate.  I haven't let
> > the car down off of
> > > the lift yet so I don't know how it will sit, but I
> > did request 1 inch
> > > of additional curve in the springs and it seems to be
> > there when the
> > > springs are unloaded.
> > >
> > > >From what I can see, it looks like my rear tranny
> > seal (T35) is
> > > leaking pretty bad so I'll probably have to replace
> > it.  
> > > TOM J where did you buy your "big nut" wrenches. 
> > I think I'll drop
> > > the driveshaft via the TSM method since I don't want
> > to mess with the
> > > spring bolts any more.  I needed to be able to
> > move the car this
> > > weekend or I might have combined the driveshaft drop
> > with the spring
> > > replacement but things don't always work out the
> > easiest way for me. 
> > > Murphy keeps tapping me on the shoulder and reminding
> > me of little
> > > corollaries to his basic law.
> > >
> > > Joe Fulton
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mhaas@xxxxxxx
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
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