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hi  all in need a  clock for my 68 javelin. if any one has a spair one   
lets make a deal., i don't know if any other models will exchange with
it . thanks chad
1968 javelin sst

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  Today's Topics:

  1. trunk detail (Eddie Stakes)
  2. Valve seals (Bruce Hevner)
  3. Wish I had this one (Thomas Garner)
  4. Re: Thomas Konicki ? (Jock J JocewJ Jocewicz)
  5. Re: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 77 Gremlin Excalibur on e-bay
  (Eddie Stakes)
  6. QUESTION: Wheel I.D. (Marc Montoni)
  7. Re: QUESTION: Wheel I.D. (RAY MICK)
  8. Re: Messing with the trunk - paint it body color or
  splatteror? (Matt Haas)


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  Message: 1
  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:21:27 -0500
  From: "Eddie Stakes"
  To:
  Subject: [AMC-list] trunk detail
  Message-ID: <8310588F7E134B8DAB9A002D06ABAF8C@piageedc1iqa5q>
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  Hi Bruce, some good advise all the way around. Something I have
  done thru the years is
  POR-15 the trunk area, let cure, then paint it body color (68-69)
  or splatter it (70-74).
  If you do POR-15 be sure to pay special attention around wheelwell
  seams and trunk pan,
  and especially around tailights. The tailight area usually didn't
  get undercoating, and
  some, like 73-74, the tailight panel rusts out really bad and no
  replacement is available.
  On trunk mats, this is usually left to the person showing the
  vehicle. I personally DON'T
  use trunk mats.......and also under hood insulation simply because
  I want to show off the
  detail. Usually judges don't mind or at least they tell me they
  don't mind! But if I have
  spent X amount of hours detailing under a hood (or trunk) I want it
  to be visible, not
  covered up. Good luck either way,
  Eddie Stakes
  713.464.8825
  eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  www.planethoustonamx.com

  From: Bruce Griffis
  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:44:52
  To: AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family
  Subject: [AMC-list] Messing with the trunk - paint it body color or
  splatter
  or?

  Okay, I have to do some glazing putty later in the week, as it looks
  a
  little rougher than I like. I hit it with primer as there was some
  bare metal and I wasn't sure if I could get to it immediately. Next
  questions, though. The trunk was originally painted body color. Along
  the inner fenders there is a rough finish - I'm guessing a rust
  preventative or something? There was some crumbling stuff keeping
  water from going down the inner fender area on the far sides of the
  trunk. Is that what seam sealer is? I'm guessing I need to replace
  that. I'm also trying to determine if I want to repaint the trunk in
  the original color (I had a can of spray paint made up in the
  original
  color - haven't sprayed it yet to make sure). The stuff was expensive
  and I got it for repairing scratches and a few spots on the body. I'm
  guessing I'll test it in the trunk and if it matches, pick up another
  can.

  Finally - the trunk originally had a fiberboard or hardboard mat in
  it. The mat was past saving. Is that stuff generally available at a
  car parts store, or would I need to special order it? I'm not looking
  for show quality - just something to put my spare tire on.
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  Message: 2
  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:24:22 -0400
  From: "Bruce Hevner"
  To:
  Subject: [AMC-list] Valve seals
  Message-ID: <000901ca567a$4e0af420$ea20dc60$@net>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  > One would have suspected intake seals as they are the ones under
  vacuum but
  changing them didn't help. The exhaust seals, which probably run
  hotter,
  were no >longer working right. Runs great now.



  Actually the exhaust seals are under vacuum too. As the exhaust exits
  the
  port and the valve closes the pulse moving down the port creates a
  vacuum
  which will suck oil down the guide. And of course the exh valve guide
  runs
  hotter which causes those seals to go bad sooner.

  This is an area where a LOT of racers go wrong. Not using seals on
  the
  exhaust valves can make the valves go bad SOONER! Too much oil causes
  a
  buildup of carbon right at the end of the guide. As the carbon gets
  thicker
  it can actually cause the valve to "stick" enough to prevent it from
  seating
  and results in the valve burning. I have seen this MANY times from
  the use
  of those JUNK white "Teflon" seals!! They are a "square" lipped seal
  and do
  little to nothing as far as sealing goes. The ONLY reason for using
  them is
  if the inner spring prevents anything bigger from fitting.

  A good way to tell if you're having this problem is to look inside
  the exh
  port and see if there's an oil "trail" coming from the end of the
  guide and
  flowing down the port.

  It's always been amazing to me how little oil the exhaust valves
  really
  require for proper operation!!!

  But HEY,,, that's just ME!!!

  Bruce Hevner





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  Message: 3
  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:02:49 -0700
  From: "Thomas Garner"
  To: "AMC List"
  Subject: [AMC-list] Wish I had this one
  Message-ID: <20091026150249.6F274822@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  http://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/1437972260.html

  Bit too pricey for me though.

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  Message: 4
  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:33:27 -0500
  From: Jock J JocewJ Jocewicz
  To: am401@xxxxxxxxxxx,amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Thomas Konicki ?
  Message-ID: <20091026.173327.3036.0.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

  Tom used to be a member of NAMDRA (quite a few years ago) for a long
  time. Tom moved to Michigan and I remember his Rambler being for
  sale.
  Will have to look thru some old newsletters to see if I can find out
  more
  about him and the Rambler.

  On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:21:48 -0400 "Clifton Danley"
  writes:
  > I was reading an old Hot Rod magazine (May 1982) and in the "Hot
  > Rod Mart" in the back of the mag is a 1966 Rambler American for
  > sale - looks like a beauty - pro-stock style drag car. The ad
  > says "Fastest street driven AMC in Chicago-land." It's painted
  > like a B-scheme car with graphics on the side that I cannot make
  > out. Anyone remember Thomas or this car?
  >
  > Cliff Danley
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  Message: 5
  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:38:40 -0500
  From: "Eddie Stakes"
  To:
  Cc: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: [AMC-list] [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 77 Gremlin Excalibur on
  e-bay
  Message-ID: <4FF47A680C234294931F23C04E0B9760@piageedc1iqa5q>
  Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
  reply-type=original

  That is great looking. How many of you remember back in 1970s the
  Stutz Blackhawk's
  customized from (I think!) a Grand Prix? These was about 5 of them
  running around down in
  Corpus Christi, Texas in mid 1970s, always a real head turner!

  http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/elvis_presleys_stutz_blackhawks.shtml

  Elvis even had one above!
  Eddie Stakes
  713.464.8825
  eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  www.planethoustonamx.com


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "timkott"
  To:
  Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 7:24 PM
  Subject: [BaadAssGremlins] Re: 77 Gremlin Excalibur on e-bay


  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-AMC-Grimlin-Excalibur-clone-look-alike-one-of-one_W0QQitemZ140355179366QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item20add21366

  has it under grimlin excalibur. by no means something i would
  drive, though it would
  definitely grab my attention at a car show.

  --- In BaadAssGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Terry Atkins

  wrote:
  >
  > Sorry guys but I don't know how to make a link for it but did
  > anyone see the 77 Gremlin Excalibur on E-bay. It looks like
  > something out of the 20's. I don't know if I like it or not.
  > Looks like somebody had more time and money than he knew what to
  > do with. I question leaving the 6 in it but since it is just for
  > show I might can understand that. The interior kind of got to me.
  > You spend all this time on the body and you leave the original
  > interior in it. I would??? have had to put some more luxurous
  > seats in it. While I don't believe I would buy it even if I had
  > the money still it is something to look at.
  > Terry
  >
  >
  >
  > A
  >




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  Message: 6
  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:07:58 -0400
  From: Marc Montoni
  To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [AMC-list] QUESTION: Wheel I.D.
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  Guys,

  Are these wheels really Javelin wheels? They look aftermarket to me.

  http://appleton.craigslist.org/pts/1417243990.html


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  Message: 7
  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:23:28 -0500
  From: RAY MICK
  To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family"
  Subject: Re: [AMC-list] QUESTION: Wheel I.D.
  Message-ID:
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  These are an aftermarket wheel. Look to be Western Wheels
  On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Marc Montoni wrote:


  Guys,

  Are these wheels really Javelin wheels? They look aftermarket to me.

  http://appleton.craigslist.org/pts/1417243990.html


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  Message: 8
  Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:34:42 -0400
  From: Matt Haas
  To: "AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and family"
  Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Messing with the trunk - paint it body color
  or splatteror?
  Message-ID: <4AE64E32.2050706@xxxxxxx>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

  If you're not 100% sure you got all the trunk leaks, I would not use
  a
  factory trunk mat. They're some sort of heavy rubber type of thing
  that
  does a real good job of trapping water between it and the trunk
  floor.
  Carpet is far nicer to the trunk than a rubber mat.

  The heavy texture stuff on the sides of the quarter panels is a sound
  deadener. It is there to keep it from pinging when stuff hits the
  quarters. There is also seam sealer down in there to seal the quarter
  to
  the trunk drop off. Seam sealer was also used in several other places
  in
  the trunk. Pay close attention to where the wheel well, trunk floor,
  and
  drop off panel come together. The factory panel fitment is poor in
  that
  area and there is probably a very large gap (the gap on my wagon was
  big
  enough to pass a #2 pencil through and the seam sealer made a chute
  to
  direct the water exactly to where it was rusty) that may or may not
  be
  covered with seam sealer. I would assume that gap is a large part of
  the
  reason why the quarters tend to rust where they do.

  Matt

  On 10/26/2009 11:12 AM, wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx spouted this sage
  advice:
  > I would skip the color match paint for now. Once you are happy
  > with the work I would use a cheaper spray can. Let it cure. The
  > Mat will cover it. All the AMC vendors used to carry fitted
  > mats and the price was not to bad. You can get generic mats to.
  > I sprayed mine with speckled paint as it leaves a rough surface
  > so things don't slide easily. I can see if there is water in the
  > trunk. I don't like the mats except for show cars. Make sure
  > whatever paint you use is compatible with your primer. I love
  > appliance epoxy for this kind of stuff. It is tough stuff and
  > easy to find. Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device from U.S.
  > Cellular
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Bruce Griffis
  > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:44:52 To: AMC, Rambler, Nash, Jeep and
  > family
  > Subject: [AMC-list] Messing with the trunk - paint it body color or
  splatter
  > or?
  >
  > Okay, I have to do some glazing putty later in the week, as it
  looks a
  > little rougher than I like. I hit it with primer as there was some
  > bare metal and I wasn't sure if I could get to it immediately. Next
  > questions, though. The trunk was originally painted body color.
  Along
  > the inner fenders there is a rough finish - I'm guessing a rust
  > preventative or something? There was some crumbling stuff keeping
  > water from going down the inner fender area on the far sides of the
  > trunk. Is that what seam sealer is? I'm guessing I need to replace
  > that. I'm also trying to determine if I want to repaint the trunk
  in
  > the original color (I had a can of spray paint made up in the
  original
  > color - haven't sprayed it yet to make sure). The stuff was
  expensive
  > and I got it for repairing scratches and a few spots on the body.
  I'm
  > guessing I'll test it in the trunk and if it matches, pick up
  another
  > can.
  >
  > Finally - the trunk originally had a fiberboard or hardboard mat in
  > it. The mat was past saving. Is that stuff generally available at a
  > car parts store, or would I need to special order it? I'm not
  looking
  > for show quality - just something to put my spare tire on.
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