Re: [AMC-list] Anyone have experience selling AMCs on traditional places?

[Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

You can always put the belts in the American.
AS for safety, 69 was the first full year advent of a redo on the floor pans for increased safety.
I think they changed sometime in 68, you can tell one from the other by looking underneath.
The newer style floorpan has a "frame rail" that runs under the floors front to rear. It misses tieing the unit frames together by inches.

You will get an increase in safety with shoulder belts.  Julianos has a bunch of seatbelt retrofit info on doing it.

Adding headrests is pretty easy once you locate a set. 68-69 Americans had them.
I pointed out the bench seat, because you mentioned your sons back issues and his safety.
Someone that has back issues is usually made uncomfortable trying to stay in place on a flat as a pancake 70s bench seat.
You could find a nice 78 up Concord, spirit, hornet and get contoured seats and good pre airbag safety designs.

Also, go to a full sized classic as you are increasing mass, comfort and safety.

When dealing with Classic cars you have to mull over all the options as you are going to make some safety concessions.
You will also likely be fully aware that you need to be extra careul.

But as Frank S. can attest, that does not always save you from an accident.

Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Griffis" <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rambler AMC, Nash, Jeep and family" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:07:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [AMC-list] Anyone have experience selling AMCs on traditional places?

Could be. I like the bench seat, and will never do high-speed
manuevering. I know I could mount three-point seat belts, or even use
four-point belts mounted in the existing seat belt locations - they
would look dorky, but might work. I also know headrests were an option
and would be period correct, just not sure if they would offer enough
protection.

Anyway, I'll mull it over. I noticed some safety stickers on some
hotrods at the last show I went to. Think I'll look for them again and
ask some questions. What turns  a hobby car into a safe car.

Basically, I just want my son to be able to participate without taking
more than the usual risks on his physical safety. I figured a newer
car would have met more safety requirements. We've got two newer cars
for daily driving - so that isn't an issue - but going for the
occasional fun run could be.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:48 AM, tom jennings<tomj@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> What Mark sez.
>
> Warning: I risk wrath here, but AMC seats in the 1970's are total crap.
> Garbage. Wavy flat springs with maybe 2" of cheap foam. The 60's cars have
> real coil springs cotton and foam. Cushions are about 6" tall. Easily
> repaired, and bolstered to any density.
>
> They tend to be low backs though there are some headrests. I put 64 classic
> 2-door seats into a Hornet but they sit 2" higher than normal. I'm 6' 4"
> andmy head scraped the roof; I Z'd the brackets and dropped the seats 1" but
> it asn't enough for me. Would be for most people though.
>
> I've done LOTS of very long trips in the 60s cars and they're fine after 8
> hours. Even my reupholstered 70 Hornet seats are unfomfortable after a
> couple of hours.
>
> Even really awful looking 60's seats (the ones with removable seat cushion)
> can be easily restored. The chrome is often pitted, but I had a local shop
> media blast it, I carefully painted it silver (Beltan paint) and they look
> great.
>
> Joshj's 72 hornet has 94? Mustang seats. They're bucket seats (I personally
> dislike those cant-move-out-of-one-position buckets) but much more
> comfortable and fit pretty nice.
>
> Sorry you gotta sell the American! But maybe you just need new seats?
>
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