Re: [Amc-list] Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83 Spirit running gear into a 1963 Breadbox)

[Wrambler <wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I been trying to not post much as I don't need any stress right now...
Anyway, I have to say, cutting a big hole in a car and stuffing it full of motor is as old as cars themselves.

I guess if this is not a hotrodding forum I and all the AMX guys should pack it in then?
Tom, sorry, you'll have to go too!, oh, Frank, you better find someone to take over the ownership of this flagship institution too! You don't have a stock AMC anything that I know of!

Come on Frank, Please can we stay with our Hotrods?

Also, NOTE: all of this is intended to be lighthearted and question the sterness of Frank's post...
Someone steal your coffee pot this morning???

:-O


Mark Price
Morgantown, WV 26508
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
"I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens!"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Swygert" <farna@xxxxxxx>
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 4:48:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Late engine/trans into earlier body...(83 Spirit running gear into a 1963 Breadbox)

I'm not going to beat this horse any more after this message, I promise! I understand if Russ or others have further comment though, I'm not saying it should be shut down, just that I think I've stated my opinion as fully as possible. Russ and I may just disagree, but that's okay, I won't hold it against him in any way at all! 

Actually, as far as preserving and caring for AMC cars, all the work required to shoehorn a 258 in an early American DOES go against what this hobby is all about. So would sticking just about anything other than one of the original type engines under the hood. This isn't a hot-rodder forum, it's one devoted to AMC cars. I know we kind of cross over into hot-rodding some times, but that's not the main focus of this group, it's really a sidebar. 

There are a few more practical choices that would make it a nice car to drive other than AMC power, as unfortunately nothing AMC made would be an *easy* fit. Jerijan mentioned making the car a nice economical driver. It's not exactly economical to shoehorn a long engine under that hood, no more so than putting an old Nash straight-eight under the hood of say a Matador Coupe. Sure it can be done, but by "economical" I mean considering the time to do so as well as expense. The time might be "free" since it's yours to do what you want, but time is still an investment in a project. The longer late model six simply WILL NOT fit without major modifications and fabrication to the body itself. I thought I made that clear, you should have read the entire post rather than stopping at "WILL NOT fit". 

My main point is that the car will basically be ruined, more so than sticking a Ford six or even an SBC in (depending on how radical the SBC installation was). Too much would have to be cut up to make it practical to return the car to original at a later date if desired. If it was about to go to the crusher anyway, no-harm-no-foul, I guess. 

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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:29:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>

So my point is that just saying in bold letters that it won't fit goes against what this hobby is all about. Try it or at least look at it with a critical eye before saying what won't work. That said I won't beat on this dead horse any longer.....Russ 

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