I've always been baffled by the use of a heated intake and it being run through the heater core. If I was doing DD duties with a carb'd 199-258 six in this day and age I would replace the standard heater shutoff valve with a 4 port shutoff valve that flow coolant through the intake at all times. It should increase driveability and fuel economy, plus make the carb a little easier to tune, since it would remove a variable. I'm not sure it would do squat for mpg, but it would be worthy of the experiment if you could scrounge up the 4 port valve. Flip side is that you could do a run through with a hose and no valve at all for a few tanks of gas to see what if anything happens. I doubt the 196.5 will see any improvement at all since the head/intake/exhaust is all combined anyway. I'm thinking that heated intake plate was a Guv'ment thing forced on them as I sure don't see another reason for it! Now, I wonder, have I prodded Tom enough? Will he be able to withstand the temptation to try this? Mark Price Morgantown, WV 26508 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II "I realize that death is inevitable. I just don't want to be around when it happens!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom jennings" <tomj@xxxxxxx> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:50:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Amc-list] WHat year 258's get water intake? Real world advantage? On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Jim Blair <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > The 2.5 in my '86 Comanche with Renix TBI is plumbed to get hot water only when the heater is turned on. Well that's pretty interesting. It makes me wonder -- what WOULD the temperature of the aluminum intake be without water? 2.5L or 232/258... I assume it would vary, and more than the iron manifold. I suspect in warm-ish weather it would be fairly hot, but to be honest, I have no idea how much heat energy the fuel+air mixture would suck out of it at speed, or if manifold heat soak would overcome that. _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list