Yeah, this is tricky business, particularly in the insanely-litigious US. I think it boils down to unambiguous warnings announcing in no uncertain terms the consequences of transgression. I don't think there's any room for debate about "personal responsbility" if the nature of the warning is "If you attempt to steal from me, you will be mutilated and probably killed." I live outside of the city. We leave our doors unlocked and the keys in the cars. We are armed in a manner appropriate for the wildlife in the area, and the sign in my driveway reads: http://www.canuck.com/~jonathan/photos/sign.jpg jl _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list