Re: [Amc-list] caspers cancer

[Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>]

It made a huge difference in ride quality. The car had a lot more 
vibration issues before the floors were fixed than it does now. It still 
vibrates a lot on the highway but most of that is I'm sure due to old 
tires and a worn out front suspension. My wagon doesn't have either of 
those issues and it doesn't vibrate at all.

Matt

On 11/15/2008 7:13 PM, Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx spouted this sage advice:
> How is it with new floors in it?
> Just curious, I know I had a few cars over the years that flexed even thought they weren't rusty.
> I can't remember what was waht anymore.
>    I know that for a while they thought flexy was not an issue.  Let the body twist and absorb some of the roughness from the roads.
> 
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> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> " I realize that death is inevitable.
> I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
> 
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>> My 68 is before that change was made so the front frame sills only go 
>> back under the front seat. That particular change was only made on the 
>> American chassis so the other bodies are probably stiffer. Besides being 
>> floppy with rotted floors, the car flexed enough to crack the cowl 
>> around the right hand wiper pivot.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On 11/15/2008 6:01 PM, Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx spouted this sage advice:
>>> Really?
>>>   I don't doubt you.
>>> It just surprises me as I thought your car was only experiencing actual floor 
>> panel rust.
>>>   Is yours pre "new" floor design? I'm just curious. 
>>> I'd always thought that even pre floor change cars would be pretty stable due 
>> to the topd of the firewalls design.
>>> I mean, there is not much there but the floor, which always has had me 
>> thinking there must be more support from above.
>>>    I guess I will be more careful in the future if I cut any larger sections 
>> of floors out!  
>>> Thanks for the warning!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark Price
>>> Morgantown, WV
>>> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
>>> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
>>> " I realize that death is inevitable.
>>> I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
>>>
>>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>>> I had this same problem on my 68 American before the front floors were 
>>>> fixed. I had to move the frame sills around slightly when fixing the 
>>>> floors to solve the problem. Speaking of the floors, that is probably a 
>>>> good place to start. I think I'd do the firewall next and frame sills 
>>>> after that.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>> On 11/14/2008 9:30 AM, Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx spouted this sage advice:
>>>>> Honestly.
>>>>> If your shell is flexing I would walk away from it.
>>>>> I would simply start looking for another shell to build on.
>>>>> Take time, you will find one. Proabably sooner than you save that one.
>>>>> I know it is special, but if the flex has set you will need a frame guy or 
>>>> some floorpots etc; to tweak it back to square. then brace and repair the 
>>>> structure.
>>>>>    
>>>>>   Rebody Casper. He's a ghost anyway...His spirit can live on in another 
>>>> shell!
>>>>
>>>>
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