Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure

[Ken Ames <ameskg@xxxxxxxxx>]

There'll be 2 at the back of the engine also, at the ends of the lifter galleries.

Ken 


Quoting "Graham, George W (GE Infra, Energy)" <george.graham@xxxxxx>:

> 
> Well, there are not only those 2 plugs under the intake, but also 2 in
> the front of the engine under the cam gear area.   Are those also
> missing??
> 
> George Graham
> AMC of Houston 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Jennings [mailto:tomj@xxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:53 AM
> To: AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans.
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] recently rebuilt 343 - No Oil Pressure
> 
> Hmm, no engine builers replied... OK, I'm rank amateur engine builder,
> but... that sounds bad to me. The first few minutes are the most
> critical by far.
> 
> Usual practice is to spin up the oil pump with a drill and flattened rod
> until you see oil pressure, BEFORE you fire up... or at least spin it up
> until it "gets stiff" so that the galleries are all full of oil and the
> pump primed.
> 
> No way you wanna hear this... if it were me, I'd pull the engine now,
> with the assumption that if you don't, you will later, with ruined hard
> parts. Or see if you can get the pan off and pop a bearing cap or two. I
> dunno though, cam lube is dead critical at start up. Did you use
> high-zinc lube on everything at assembly?
> 
> Sorry, I think no one wants to say anything so depressing. Maybe the
> more-optimistic will slap me down here. I do tend to be on the paranoid
> side when it comes to assembly.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Greg DePratt wrote:
> > Finally got my 343 back together and in my Javelin.  Fired it up and 
> > found that I am not getting any oil pressure....bummer.  So I checked 
> > my oil pressure gauge and it is working.  Next I checked the oil 
> > pressure gauge tube and also removed the tube from the port.  Some oil
> 
> > will come out of the port while it is running but not a lot.  Next we 
> > removed the distributor and turned the oil pump with a drill, thinking
> 
> > maybe the pump didn't get primed properly.  Still no oil pressure.  
> > After scratching our heads for a while we remembered that the local 
> > machine shop sent the block back to us without any of the plugs in it.
> 
> > Usually they put the plugs back in the correct spots before giving it 
> > back. We installed all the plugs we had but were unsure on the two 
> > plugs at the front of the engine under the intake.  With the drill 
> > turning the oil pump we see a lot of oil flowing while looking into 
> > the oil fill tube.  Is this the souce of my low oil pressure problem?
> Thought I would ask the experts before I pull the intake and have to buy
> a new gasket.
> > 
> > The total run time for the engine so far was less than 5 minutes.  Do 
> > you think I could have damaged anthing?
> > 
> > If it is those plugs that I need to fill, does anyone know what size 
> > they are?
> > 
> > Thanks for you help!
> > 
> > Greg DePratt
> > 68 Javelin SST
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