Re: [Amc-list] Muskeeter rings,,, Ring break-in problems

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Thanks, Brien, nice to get a second.

I'll be filing all the engine parts till I have a firm timeline on the install.

Time to set up an ebay search for Jeep rings and wait for some poor guy selling off abandoned engine build parts :]

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Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
" I realize that death is inevitable.
I just don't want to be around when it happens! "

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From: Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Muskeeter rings,,, Ring break-in problems
> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." 
> 	
> 
> Thanks!
> I'll be filing this.
> Uh, anti friction lube? Would you use this on a the Coated Skirt piston?
> So, Basically your saying you don't get assembly lube anywhere near the rings 
> and use 3 in 1 oil in the ring grooves and let the rings pretty much dry?
>    Call me old and unschooled on this, but I always used plain old engine oil 
> and pretty much lubed the crap out of the bores and pistons with it. I take it I 
> was doing it wrong?
>   
>    I never had a rebuild fail on me over the years though! No smokers or other 
> failures. So I must not have screwed up too bad...
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II
> " I realize that death is inevitable.
> I just don't want to be around when it happens! "
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> That's correct, except the last part..
> 
> Carefully lube the ring lands so they don't
> abraise on start up - keep all oils off the rings
> faces.
> 
> Run just a daub of light oil centered on the piston skirts to ease initial dry 
> start up skuffing.
> 
> The dry fresh cross hatched walls are not to be oiled either - unless you're 
> storing the engine long term.
>  
> If done correctly the dry rings will generate crazy heat against the dry 
> crosshatch & seat properly almost instantly.
> 
> Keep the engine in an effortless sweet spot above 2k rpm for 
> two minutes - not revv'ems - just floating around 2,300.
> 
> The old air cooled VW & PORSCHE flat fours had a reputation
> for smoking - back in the 1960s.  
> 
> VW / PORSCHE AG drew info from the racing community & instituted the above 
> procedures at the Factory and for Service.
> 
> No more smoking D'ubs - problem solved.
> 
> A guesstimate would be that back when, American engine piston weights & ring 
> design / materials worked in favor of achieving
> a ring sealing - even after a 'wet storage' rebuild .
> 
> 
> T
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