My son just dropped the oil pan on the '94 XJ he recently got for cheap (made a knocking noise) turned out to be badly worn rod bearings, but it ran fine otherwise. Noise was piston #2 thumping the ring land on the ridge of the cylinder (never taken apart in almost 300,000 miles. He also fished chunks of Fram filter paper out of the oil gallery with a coat hanger. Filter had blown apart for "no reason") Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 From: Joe Fulton Subject: [Amc-list] Gravel at Idle To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I may have mentioned this before, but my 77 Gremlin 258 six/auto has developed a sound like a rock in the oil pan at idle. The sound goes away when you race the engine. I have listened to various parts of the engine and accessories with a dowel up to my ear, but can't really identify where the sound comes from. The idle is pretty smooth now and the intermittent "crunch" sound doesn't seem to coincide with a drop in rpm. As far as I know the oil pressure is good. I have an idiot light which goes out promptly on startup. Cold cranking compression test last week was 160 psi on all cylinders so the top end seems to be healthy. I'll try to listen near the flex plate/transmission later today to see if the sound comes from back there. I don't think it's a water pump sound either, because the pump is not leaking a bit, but I can take off the fan belts and see if the sound goes away without the pump turning. I already took the belt off of the air pump, which I thought was the source, but the sound doesn't change when the air pump is not turning. Any ideas? Joe Fulton _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one message at a time. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_BetterPlace _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list