Re: [Amc-list] [strokers] Re: Detonation

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Gee, I wonder what this stuff would do if you just dumped it in and went?
Zalman makes a concentrate with corrosion inhibiters for liquid cooled computers to
It runs about $20 for 300ml
  tom you could be a guinea pig since your going to pull the 232 anyway!
[Just kidding]

http://www.yardandpool.com/product.php?productid=1237

I'd consider trying it if I had anything that pinged or ran hot.
On the water contamination thoughts.
If the system is not pressurized or only held at 4-7 psi, would the water not simply cook off as it circulated?
I have no idea on this kind of stuff.

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
" Chronic Pain Hurts"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Ryan B <rjb700@xxxxxxxxx>
> You can get propylene glycol (PG) antifreeze for much less than $32 a gallon.  
> PG is even in cake frosting and cough syrup.
> looking at the msds even the concentrate out of the jug has %3 water.
> 3.84 ounces per gal. 
> 
> PG + water does not work well in cold temps and the more water you add the less 
> well it works.
> 
> ethylene glycol (EG) works better with water than it does in pure form
> http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF6/680.html
>  
> 
> http://www.eartheasy.com/article_antifreeze_low_tox.htm
> 
> I'd be curious to know how PG responds to low concentrations of water ie 3% . 
> How quickly will it get contaminated from just normal condensation and at what 
> point will this be a problem?
> 
> So if I had to spend $128 on antifreeze how many gallons of premium would that 
> buy? If the price difference between prem and reg is 30 cents and if this 
> coolant would let you run 87 rather than premium and if you get 16 mpg 
> 
> assuming all those if's are true you'd break after 6826 miles.
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [strokers] Re: [Amc-list] Detonation
> > To: "Strokers" <strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, amundaza@xxxxxxxxx, "AMC/Rambler 
> owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 9:16 AM
> > I'd be interested into looking into this if I was sure
> > it would do no harm and no void the remainder of my
> > powertrain warranty!
> >    Any links to long tern studies?
> > Think about it. This would be an ideal solution to some of
> > the compression issues the low buck six cylinder strokers
> > have.
> >    I'm copy8ing it over there to see if anyone has any
> > thoughts.
> > 
> > --
> > Mark Price
> > Morgantown, WV
> > 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> > 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
> > " Chronic Pain Hurts"
> > 
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Greg Taylor <amundaza@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > In response to Davis' running too hot comment, you
> > could also try switching from 
> > > standard coolant to Evan's Waterless Coolant. 
> > It's pricey, but does an 
> > > excellent job at cooling things down, since it stays
> > LIQUID against the hot 
> > > areas of the cylinder head around the combustion
> > chamber.  It also runs at ZERO 
> > > pressure in the cooling system, unlike the typical
> > 14-16 lbs of standard 
> > > antifreeze.
> > >  
> > > Read up on it at :
> > >  
> > > http://www.evanscooling.com/index2.html
> > >  
> > > http://www.evanscooling.com/main25.htm
> > >  
> > >
> > http://www.restorationstuff.com/What_s_New/Light%20Bulbs/Antifreeze.htm
> > >  
> > > BTW, I remember reading a post on the Evans NPG+ a few
> > years back about a guy 
> > > with a Dodge Dakota who ran the coolant, along with a
> > higher temp thermostat 
> > > (215 I think) and he picked up 3 MPGs on the truck.
> > > 
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Greg Taylor :) <><
> > > 
> > > And the testimony is this, that God has given us
> > eternal life, and this life is 
> > > in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who
> > does not have the Son of God 
> > > does not have the life. - 1 John 5:11-12
> > > 
> > > --- On Tue, 6/24/08, David Crooks
> > <david.crooks@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > From: David Crooks <david.crooks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Detonation
> > > To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 9:11 PM
> > > 
> > > Other things that are sometimes helpful to try are:
> > > 
> > > Switch to a colder spark plug
> > > 
> > > Jet for a richer mixture.
> > > 
> > > And of course, back off the advance.
> > > 
> > > Detonation usually means you're running to hot,
> > you need to figure out  
> > > some way of cooling things off a bit....
> > > 
> > > Dave
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