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Today's Topics:

   1. Twas the day after XRmas.... (Jerry Casper)
   2. Re: Globs in the fuel caused by ethanol dissolving fiberglass
      gel coat (Tom Jennings)
   3. Re: 65 Marlin Instrument Bulbs (Matt Haas)
   4. Re: Globs in the fuel caused by ethanol dissolving (farna@xxxxxxx)
   5. Re: Globs in the fuel caused by ethanol dissolving fiberglass
      gel coat (Matt Haas)
   6. Re: 1959 Rambler w/Diesel Motor - $1100 (Jamie Smith)
   7. Megasquirted turbo Jeep 5.9 Limited (Widiker, John D)
   8. AMC Magazine a readers report! (John Elle)
   9. Re: AMC Nationals (namdra@xxxxxxxx)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:37:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerry Casper <gremlingts@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Twas the day after XRmas....
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Cc: AMC <amc-delmarva@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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   T'was the morning after XRmas...

 Twas the fine morning after
that great holiday
 where people give gifts
and bow heads to pray

 In thanks for the child
who's life was our gift
 to deliver us from evil
(and not miss a quick shift)

 That having been said,
our man of the hour,
 Ol Jolly Saint Nick
who delivered thru powder.

 Bursting thru heaven
and driving like hell,
 he delivered his goods
and all turned out well.

 Back home now in slippers
sipping piping hot cider,
 he munched on some snacks
groaning " I'm gonna get wider".

 The post-season news
was just coming in
 and all Santa could do
was shake head and grin.

 The reindeer were found
at some posh party distillin'
 fine pickled eggnog
with some chick named P. Hilton

 The Elves were invited 
to California, a show
 with some guy named Phil
'bout their phobia of snow

 The Mrs. had gone south
to a sunny rehab
 making tan lines in Aruba
and gettin' rid of some flab.

 Santa was just chillin'
after a wild ride that night
 no doubt he'd made history
with that historic flight.

 The Eagle had soared
and pulled straight and true
 while the Gremlin XR 
had sure paid it's dues. 

 The landings were tricky
with brakes notoriously fickle
 even with those torque links
he barely missed the Grim sickle.

 But he mastered that beast
and drove it all night
 til it dropped him home safely
from that hair-raising flight.

 He'd motored it past
all the elves, cheering wildly
 as he'd broken speed records
and that's putting it mildly!

 He'd pulled into his garage
and finally turned off the key.
 The motors went silent
and ol' Santa had to pee!

 With a bow of his head
he'd prayed with much love
 for making it thru
with that help from above.

 Now a few hours later
he was feeling quite toasty
 the cider had kicked in
and his cheeks were all rosy

 He sauntered outdoors
down the pathway dim lit
 to his favorite garage
where the XR did sit.

 The door flew wide open
as Santa gazed merrily
 upon his red-hot lil Gremlin
and then sighed, Oh verily

 What am I to do
with this car so bare tamed
 with a motor so hot
he'd almost gone down in flames?

 It wasn't it's fault
it was so devilishly fast
 but he'd prayed every hour
thinking it might be his last.

 He gazed and he pondered
then with a final weary sigh
 he pulled on the cover
and looked to the sky.

 "Oh Lord, I don't know
the fate of this car,
 if only I could see
by the light of your star.

 To guide me thru heaven
was a task quite forbidding
 I'm not sure next year
my heart could take thrilling.

 So I leave it to you
to show me the way
 if it's needed once more
as old Santa's sleigh."

 So one last look upon
that wild child, now still.
 He silently bade goodnight
'til next year's good will. 

 And after closing the door,
and walking up to his castle
 thought "I'd better call Haggerty,
if I wreck it'll be a hassle!"  

 The End? 

 by Jerry Casper
 
 


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:34:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Globs in the fuel caused by ethanol dissolving
	fiberglass gel coat
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, John Elle wrote:

> Hey Tom!
> If this is ethanol causing the problem, what is that stuff we been
> running in our gasoline here for the last 30 years? Seems to me I been
> running alcohol laced gasoline now ever since lead disappeared!

It's true that gasohol isn't new. If it is the plastic tank
lining goo melting, it could be other unholy crap they are
putting in the gas. The MTBE story is a horror; it's amazing
it got used.

Also something is eating old fuel lines, in addition to age. But
a car tank made in the 1980's getting eaten, that's weird.


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:29:16 -0500
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 65 Marlin Instrument Bulbs
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Keith,

You may want to check that the light switch has a good ground. I'm not 
sure if there are other grounds our not (there is a 1966 wiring diagram 
on my site in the Technical Information section that's probably pretty 
close to what you have). Also, dust build up inside the instrument panel 
and on the bulbs will make things dim as well.

Matt

Keith wrote:
> I was wondering why my instrument panel bulbs for the backlighting seemed to be a little dim (typical of old 60's car...I think). I have a mixture of 158 (stock) and 194 bulbs which appear to be comparable per the information on this web page:
> 
> http://www.theherd.com/articles/bulbs.html
> 
> I am thinking about going to either LED replacements or the 168 bulbs, A little worried the 168 bulbs may bet a little too hot. Anyone had experience in this area?
> 
> Keith
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-- 
mhaas@xxxxxxx
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http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 04:33:50 +0000
From: farna@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Globs in the fuel caused by ethanol dissolving
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
	<123020060433.19091.4595EC2E0001069400004A9321603831160E029D0E00@xxxxxxx>
	

I tend to agree with John. 10% ethanol shouldn't affect fiberglass gelcoat. E-85 might, but E-10 will not. 

This does seem like something either in the tank or fuel causing this problem. Might be time to invest in a locking gas cap -- maybe someone did put something in the tank. If not, you can pull the tabk, wash it out with warm water and soap, then let it dry and wash out again. Hirsch  tank liner is alcohol proof, so you can use that. You just pour it in and slosh it around. It will line fiberglass tanks also. There's more than one kind of resiin used in boats. Polyester is the cheaper stuff found in most auto parts stores. I don't think it likes alcohol. I believe the higher priced resin is alcohol resistant -- but I might have that backwards. I know of at least one boat owner with a fiberglass tank who lined with the Hirsch stuff and has had no problem after a couple years. He brushed it on rather than sloshing around (hard to slosh a boat around -- tank is built in -- he cut the top out and painted the inside). www.hirschauto.com. 

--
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
Magazine (AMC)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html
(free download available!)

 -------------- Original message ----------------------

> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:14:33 -0700
> From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Hey Tom!
> If this is ethanol causing the problem, what is that stuff we been
> running in our gasoline here for the last 30 years? Seems to me I been
> running alcohol laced gasoline now ever since lead disappeared! 
> John
> 


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:37:41 -0500
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Globs in the fuel caused by ethanol dissolving
	fiberglass gel coat
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <4595ED15.4030609@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Also, it's very unlikely that any recent street car would have a 
fiberglass gas tank from the factory. Gas tanks are supposed to stay 
intact in crashes (which is most likely why the OEM's are using plastic 
tanks now) and I just don't see how a fiberglass tank would hold up.

Matt

Tom Jennings wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, John Elle wrote:
> 
>> Hey Tom!
>> If this is ethanol causing the problem, what is that stuff we been
>> running in our gasoline here for the last 30 years? Seems to me I been
>> running alcohol laced gasoline now ever since lead disappeared!
> 
> It's true that gasohol isn't new. If it is the plastic tank
> lining goo melting, it could be other unholy crap they are
> putting in the gas. The MTBE story is a horror; it's amazing
> it got used.
> 
> Also something is eating old fuel lines, in addition to age. But
> a car tank made in the 1980's getting eaten, that's weird.
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
mhaas@xxxxxxx
Cincinnati, OH
http://www.mattsoldcars.com
1967 Rambler American wagon
1968 Rambler American sedan
===============================================================
According to a February survey of Internet holdouts released by
UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite
not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online.



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:35:48 -0800
From: "Jamie Smith" <oconner51@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1959 Rambler w/Diesel Motor - $1100
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <BAY109-DAV37327DE7596B6E6E0B9CEBFC50@xxxxxxx>
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> Oh, wow, What a cool concept car to run on Waste vegetable oil!

>I hadn't thought of that! (diesel Rambler). A friend has a veggie
>oil Mercedes from Lovecraft here in LA. It always smells like
>french fries (really). Glugging Costco vegetable oil into the
>car with a big funnel is a lot less convenient than LPG! Still
>cheap, but if a few thousand people compete for burger joint
>used grease, fights will break out. It could get ugly.


Here in Spokane, WA there is a guy that owns a Zips restaurant (fast food) and he has a veggie diesel truck. He used to have to pay to have his waste cooking oil disposed of, now he uses it to fuel his truck. He has a decal on the tailgate that says fueled by french fry oil or something like that.


James Smith
Spokane, WA
oconner51@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oconner51@xxxxxxxxxxx>
1966 Rambler American 220 Station Wagon
1966 Rambler Classic 770 Two Door Hardtop (For Sale)
1977 GMC Sierra 3/4 Ton (for sale)
1984 AMC Eagle Limited Station Wagon
1986 AMC Eagle Station Wagon
1986 Jeep Comanche 


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:13:23 -0500
From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Megasquirted turbo Jeep 5.9 Limited
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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	<053E34168692C4438533FE33E79C1A18439119@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

Recently I was going on about MegaSquirt systems, here's what we got
running just a few minutes ago:

Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited with a fully built mopar 360 (the stock
engine lasted 1 day boosted), Giant T4 turbo. It was limited to 5 pounds
of boost with the factory computer that had been band-aid fixed. It had
run a 12.7 in the 1/4 and put just shy of 600 hp through all 4 tires to
the dyno with that config. 

It's running solely on the MegaSquirt now and we are doing fuel/ignition
maps for up to 10 pounds of boost. We are still using the factory
computer to shift the transmission (he didn't want to pay for a second
controller) I'll post some pics and videos to my site in the next day or
two. Ever seen violent 4 wheel burnouts? LOL

~John



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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 00:46:02 -0700
From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC Magazine a readers report!
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <000401c72be6$91b502e0$dcdc0d82@john1>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I just spent some time reading a bit of my new AMC magazine. Thanks
Frank, it reads quite well I will have to admit. For those of you who
have not got one yet, you have missed something enjoyable. 
Nuff said. 
John.
 


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:41:31 -0600
From: namdra@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] AMC Nationals
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20061230.024132.-16583887.1.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii  

Armand,
  You are correct, Cordova, IL is located north of the Quad Cities, along
the Mississippi River. The Cordova Dragway Park is just north of Cordova,
IL on RT.#84. The track is right along the highway where you can actually
see them racing if you are driving by!

If anyone wants to check out more about Cordova Dragway Park, go to
www.cordovadrag.com.

BTW, Cordova Dragway Park has switched from being an IHRA track to a NHRA
track starting 1-1-07.

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 22:52:33 -0600 "Armand Eshleman"
<aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> Is Cordova IL located north of the Quad Cities right on the 
> Mississippi
> River?
> 
> thanks,
> Armand
> 
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