I thought the anti-freeze item was curious also. -- I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, Than live my life as if there isn't, And die to find out there is. -Blaise Pascal Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6 John Elle wrote: > >Looking at the following > >Snip >Who wants to see an original "retail price label" for a '61 Wagon? > >See it here: <http://www.indianachevelles.com/pellwagon.html> >http://www.indianachevelles.com/pellwagon.html (scroll >to the bottom). >Snip > >Reminds me of some of the automotive infrastructure of the time as the >industry as it existed then as it experimented with aluminum engines and >parts such as cylinder heads etc. and for the most part proved to be a >short term failure. Not so much as the technology or design was bad but >the engines were prone to over heating problems after a bit of time and >related types of failures including blown head gaskets etc. > >The retail price label makes a point of adding "anti-freeze" to the >option list. Think about that one for a minute. This is something that >you would expect to see in your cooling system today. However in 1961 is >was quite common to just run straight water if you did not live in an >environment that did not include winter freezing weather. In fact in an >area of the south that I lived in at that time during the summer months >anti-freeze was not available in the auto parts stores at all. At that >time I owned a French car with an aluminum cylinder head that I blew the >water pump gasket out of racing a Jaguar. Upon getting the car back home >and making the repair I was unable to purchase anti-freeze to refill the >radiator so reverting to common practice of the area I just used water. >Why not? Everyone else did. "sides I had never heard of electrolysis >before and I knew when I got back north I could get a gallon of >Prestone. > >However about 6 months later I started having overheating problems as >the interaction between the aluminum head and the cast iron block caused >the radiator to plug up causing the overheating problems. > >Of course now it was winter weather time and after boiling out the >radiator I was able to purchase a gallon of Anti-Freeze at a Christmas >Sale or something of that nature. > >No wonder aluminum engines or heads got bad press. > >Of course the other thing to do is to compare the retail price list to >what is on car windows now as we read the saga of how much smog >equipment is installed as "Standard" equipment, as if I really cared or >how it is equipped with things such as steering wheels, seats and tires >and other basically essential items we have taken for granted that >"must" be present on a car in order to consider buying it. > >My! How the automotive world has changed, both for what is offered and >our expectations of what we get. > >Some good, some bad and an awful lot just ridiculous. >John. > >_______________________________________________ >AMC-List mailing list >AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx >http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > >or go to http://www.amc-list.com > > > > -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/524 - Release Date: 11/8/2006 _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com