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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Confused in Phoenix (Jim Blair)
2. 73 Matador (russ hathaway)
3. Confused in Phoenix (jackbarncord@xxxxxxx)
4. Confused In Phoenix (Mr. AMC)
5. Re: 71-74 Javelin Parts in MA (Jonathan Jusczyk)
6. Javelin electrical problems (Jonathan Jusczyk)
7. Blown [off by a Beep-Beep Nash] (Mahoney, John)
8. Fw: interior door handels 1979 pacer DL WANTED (Eddie Stakes)
9. how not to sell a car (Eddie Stakes)
10. Fw: shock question (Eddie Stakes)
11. Re: how not to sell a car (Mark Price)
12. Re: Fw: shock question (Sandwich Maker)
13. Re: how not to sell a car (Eddie Stakes)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:45:03 -0700
From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Confused in Phoenix
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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A: Ditto! Even though doing so is bad, I recently blew away a coffee can
Honda in my '87 Comanche. Seems 33" tires, 3.73 gears and the Peugeot 5
speed agree with the 4.0L. He tried to take me on the I-405 onramp (2 lanes
wide with a traffic light and 200 feet till it becomes 1 lane as it merges
with the highway and the coast was clear), so I got on it and squealled the
tires as I hit second gear at 3500 rpm coming out of first (this trans speed
shifts nicely since I put Redline MTL in it) Good thing I don't do it too
often as the trans/clutch doth protest at such treatment!
From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Confused in Phoenix
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AWESOME story, I'm going to have a better day now just cause I
read
that!
~J
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:26:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 73 Matador
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Jim; I found a 73 Matador 4-dr (304-2v auto, AC, PS,
PDB, CC, AM and bench seats from what I remember) in
an old abandoned yard. I am looking for a reason to go
out and get the brakes, tail lites and anything else.
If you need the fenders they are real nice, though
faded and mossey. $50 plus shipping.....Russ 503-589-9845
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:44:33 +0000
From: jackbarncord@xxxxxxx
Subject: [AMC-List] Confused in Phoenix
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Dear Confused,
First, what a wonderful account of justice and how proud you must be of Molly.
Second, this is always an uplifting event. Josephine, my 70 Hornet 304 w/sst trim, was my "Molly." Far from stock she could hold her own with the best and brightest chevy had to offer. I was always hopeful and often surprised when the likes of Greg Haak in his 73 454 vette couldn't negotiate his way around.
Again, a wonderful account, thanks. How about an extra wash and wax for Molly just for being there when you asked? :-)
Jack
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:02:14 -0400
From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC)
Subject: [AMC-List] Confused In Phoenix
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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After almost spending 24/7 with my wife of 37 years for the last 10 days
of her 2 week vacation I am I needed somthing like this story to make my
day. :-) Thanks.
Beep Beep!!!!!!
"Doc"
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:56:10 -0400
From: Jonathan Jusczyk <j.jusczyk@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 71-74 Javelin Parts in MA
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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David Borkman wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> -Saw this ad in the Boston CraigsList. For the fellow Rhode Islander
> looking for Javelin trim pieces -it's not too far from RI.
>
> Anyway, maybe someone can use these parts...
>
> Good Luck,
> Dave Borkman
> Saunderstown, RI
Thanks!
Jon
'73 Javelin 304
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:13:27 -0400
From: Jonathan Jusczyk <j.jusczyk@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Javelin electrical problems
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I've got some sort of charging issue going on, made worse by the fact
that no one has the parts I need so I have to wait a week to get
anything done.
First things first, about six months ago when I was back home on break I
noticed hard restarting problems in my Jav. When left overnight, it
would start right up in the morning but if I went anywhere and it was
good and warmed up, it would crank over real slow, but would start.
Then I went back to school, and it sat.
So in the past month or two, I've been trying to get it back to daily
driver capable. First we thought it was a starter problem, with heat
soak sending the resistance sky high, but soon found out the battery was
crap. Didn't think it was the battery at first, since it was pretty
new, but it wouldn't hold a charge and eventually just popped and didn't
work (now I'm thinking it might have been a result of excessive
over/undercharging). And then the starter relay was bad too, no
clicking from the relay when I bench tested it. New battery, new
starter solenoid, wow it starts real nice!
Problem not solved though, as soon it's the same thing where it won't
want to restart after driving for a while. Putting a battery booster on
when it's acting up makes it fire right up, and I took apart and cleaned
up the starter and put in new cables, which leads me to think it's an
alternator problem. Then when I'm driving it at night for the first
time, I notice the alt light is glowing dimly with the headlights on.
Off to Autozone, they throw my alternator on their testing machine and
it fails the rectifier test. One week and much hullabaloo later, the
new alternator is in (two actually), we threw that on the tester just to
check, and of course it failed the same tests. For kicks we tossed the
extra on there, and it did the same thing. Thinking it was just a
problem with their onmitest machine, I took it home and wired it all up.
With the car off and the new alternator hooked up, the alt light was
glowing brightly. With the key "on", the light would go out.
Back to Autozone, we order a voltage regulator too since you usually
replace them at the same time (mine seemed to be working fine), once
that comes in, probably a week from now, I'll try the new alternator and
new regulator and see if this thing will finally work. Other than that,
I'm not sure what else there is. I wouldn't mind swapping to a one wire
alternator, does anyone have a part number that interchanges?
Arg, simple stuff like this that should be fixable in a few hours but
turns to weeks waiting for stuff is frustrating... Waiting for parts
from Russia for my Dnepr gives me practice though.
Jon
'73 Javelin 304
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 17:42:37 -0400
From: "Mahoney, John" <jmahoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Blown [off by a Beep-Beep Nash]
To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>>
The 300 guy turned beet red and told me he had 435 horsepower. I told him he's full of crap unless his car weighs 8000 pounds.
<<
Fat chance: '06 300C SRT8 6.1 HEMI is only rated at 420 hp. 4046 lbs.
Was 4041, but still ~9.5 pounds-per-horsepower. Remember that number.
Until the end of the story, I thought his Chrysler was a current 300C.
One expects it may be driven with, ah, aggression (or like a Pontiac.)
Zoom-zoom? No. Vroom-vroom: burble-burble. Bubble. Toil. Trouble.
But the story is TNT --- the name Chrysler had yet did not advertise heavily, for the the RB 440 --- last of their '60s-'70s big block engines: rated 350-hp (375 Hurst; 390 Six Pack; could be 435). So if his 300 was, say, a 1971, it made 335 base (370 hopped up). Clearly Molly was no garage queen this morning, merely the empress of the road.
And if his 300 was the current thing, Molly was also the beauty queen.
Dunno how much reminiscence and rust the old iron monsters had to haul
http://www.tocmp.com/brochures/Chrysler/1969/pages/34_jpg.htm
(only AMC seemed to make a play of "The Lightness of Being" back then), yet four tons seems a little lard too much. "Less than a '31 Cadillac V-16 sports car!" sounds right. A Convertible Victoria weighed just under 6,000 lbs.; a
35.8-lb-per-hp hunk of burnin', burnin', road-racin', automotive lu-uv.
Even a newfangled [German!] thang now weighs in at a bit less than that
http://tinyurl.com/hehnk
since its 4-door (some sedan) counterpart weighs "only" about 5800 lbs.
http://tinyurl.com/zw4ne
Blown? With that kind of Weather-Eye, one could happily -live- inside!
Can you remember the only 1968 car that compared to an AMC Ambassador?
Can you please post the ad? Arctic Boy's can't be linked or searched.
Maybe an AMC -can- drive car lovers mad. It certainly drives me nuts.
But back to the Valley of the Sun fun. 300 versus Gremlin. And nuts.
Found weight, on a furrin site ("Stupid in America" is not a joke): a '70 300 hardtop weighed 4135 lbs. 11.8/hp is a bit better, but still no 10.7/per like a certain '70 AMC machine (OK, a "Machine"), or, since some here still try to be smart Americans in the realms of stupidity, to SC/Ramble back to '69, no 9.5 either. Maybe that was where he got his "4" and his "35" figures. Or maybe he was being American. It is common now. And it can be either a very good --- or a very bad thing.
AFA road rage (let alone -manners- ["What's THAT?" Americans now ask]), a tale also has a moral: some people should Wedge something somewhere sometimes. Their flying finger and coffee should have flown right back into -their- eyes.
Turns up an hour later in the -driveway-? How'd he find Molly? GPS? Maybe more than his Torqueflite was slipping: could have met with a Magnum. Not built by Dodge. Too much [horsepower etc.] is never enough; until it's too much.
Good story, nonetheless. Keep driving on the AMC lane of Route 66.
I won't tell an AMC street story now; already told one about a Silver Shadow and an Ambassador. When a Rolls-Royce was outshone by a Kenosha car and a General (Ret.) drove out of a country club parking lot. Did not throw his Grey Poupon. Knew better than to do that. His Navy Everlast on Powder Blue was trumped [!] by my Foak on Golden Slime.
Even the Benz boys (no Bentley boys were present) and girls thought it was funny. Too bad AMC made so few of them.
That's the only reason I still keep --- and store --- AMC memories. Old days. Nostalgia. Potential. Good times.
There's not much AMC presence in the present; no really good forum to share the presents from the past. Bad times.
I have no idea why nine 1947 RAT drawings --- among the earliest clues to what would make memories for AMC --- can't be accessed from the AMX files "archive" of yesterday --- and I don't need to read whatever technical reason(s) they can't. The links worked (and still work) in my e-mail; the points made were (and still are) relevant. When is this AMC world going to get up and go somewhere? AMC fans are still losing big time.
And time is still passing: know with which AMC VP this guy once hung?
http://www.iskycams.com/pdfcatalog/PAGE2.pdf#search=%22iskenderian%22
See 10/06 PHR, page 130. 13 AMC parts places listed (66-68): buy 'em before they're gone. Good head-porting piece (74-84) --- even if, in Figure 2, a "Forth" follows third. Huh? God is in the details --- in architecture and in cars. And attention to details is as important in writing about cars as it is in restoring them or in wrenching on them.
Even cars that only unplug.
http://www.teslamotors.com
Electric Blue (what else) and Very Orange (very); Green, not Big Bad.
You can remember the AMX/+.
Even if your 300 guy can't.
Car show in WNY this coming Sunday: sunny skies and 60s-70s expected. Any '50s-'80s AMCs also? The colorful Buick won't be parked beside the Packard again. For some strange reason, the two old girls just didn't seem to get along.
http://www.hfmrotary.org/
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:52:44 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: interior door handels 1979 pacer DL WANTED
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: bernotas@xxxxxxxxxxx
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If anyone has some Pacer interior door handles for sale please give Vinny in
NJ a shout below who would appreciate it. Thanks in advance to all who might
reply.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "bernotas" <vbernotas7567@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:06 PM
Subject: interior door handels 1979 pacer DL
> hi saw your article. I'm fixing a 79 amc pacer at the mcguire air force
> base auto hobby shop in NJ. I am looking for inside door handles for it
> that are better than whats on it. Do you have a pair? what price for both
> shipped to my house at 08060 Mt holly NJ.email is: bernotas@xxxxxxxxxxx
> thanks vinny
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:45:21 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] how not to sell a car
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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This would be how not to sell a car!
The dog is getting into the car to take a dump.
Then the old lady is made to clean it up:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Florida-tag_W0QQitemZ280024927259QQihZ018QQcategoryZ5357QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
My apologies is this is anyone's here car. Three words: change the photos!
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:45:45 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] Fw: shock question
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Arthur Moore <chance1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Arthur is asking if a shocks, front for 68 AMX will fit a 71 Javelin. Feel free to reply and copy your reply to Art who would appreciate it. Thanks in advance to all who may reply.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
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----- Original Message -----
From: Arthur Moore
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: ??
THANX FOR THE HELP ... do you have any idea how to get a monroe shock # for the frt & rear 68 amx ..also would 71 frt shocks fit the 68 or are they different thanx
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 15:33:55 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] how not to sell a car
To: Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Eddie, you know this is what happened from past experience or what??? :
LOL!!!!!!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This would be how not to sell a car!
>
> The dog is getting into the car to take a dump.
>
> Then the old lady is made to clean it up:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Florida-tag_W0QQitemZ280024927259QQihZ018QQcategoryZ5357QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> My apologies is this is anyone's here car. Three words: change the photos!
> Eddie Stakes'
> Planet Houston AMX
> 713.464.8825
> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.planethoustonamx.com
> Email is currently HEAVY
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>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:36:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Fw: shock question
To: chance1@xxxxxxxxxxx, mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <200609062336.k86Nawq12020@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
" ----- Original Message -----
" From: Arthur Moore
"
"
" THANX FOR THE HELP ... do you have any idea how to get a monroe shock #
" for the frt & rear 68 amx ..also would 71 frt shocks fit the 68 or are
" they different thanx
" _______________________________________________
the shocks are different. the whole front suspension is different.
'68-9 javelin and amx and '64-9 american use the same shock, and iirc
pinto/mustang II -rear- are also the same.
kyb makes, or used to make, a very stiff gas-a-just. i have a set on
my american. gabriel has a low pressure gas shock special-order
procedure, and supposedly will handle any car not in stock.
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 19:09:07 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] how not to sell a car
To: "Mark Price" <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <036b01c6d211$db88cb10$e8f3b148@piageedc1iqa5q>
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Ok, that does it. I'm going to Wal Mart tonight and getting a can or two of
white paint to make me some Goat Pack stripes:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330008960552
watch for this to appear in October......
And no, the dogs didn't take a dump in my black 68 AMX above. Mainly because
they can't get in there with that plasma screen the familia put in there,
well, and the wet bar.
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Price" <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] how not to sell a car
> Eddie, you know this is what happened from past experience or what??? :
> LOL!!!!!!
> --
> Mark Price
> markprice242ATadelphia.net
> Morgantown, WV
>
>
> ---- Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> This would be how not to sell a car!
>>
>> The dog is getting into the car to take a dump.
>>
>> Then the old lady is made to clean it up:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Florida-tag_W0QQitemZ280024927259QQihZ018QQcategoryZ5357QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>> My apologies is this is anyone's here car. Three words: change the
>> photos!
>> Eddie Stakes'
>> Planet Houston AMX
>> 713.464.8825
>> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> www.planethoustonamx.com
>> Email is currently HEAVY
>> 5-12 day reply times, call if important
>>
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>> or go to http://www.amc-list.com
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