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Today's Topics:
1. SuperRod and others (Brien Tourville)
2. Re: apathy (dan whitehead)
3. AMC Foundations of a Globe-Trotting Company (Archimedes)
4. Re: Looking back (Frank Swygert)
5. Re: Apathy (Frank Swygert)
6. What to do (Michael Bailey)
7. Re: What to do (Mark Price)
8. Re: Apathy (Mark Price)
9. Re: Looking back (Mark Price)
10. 369 auctions end today (Eddie Stakes)
11. Re: What To Do? (JOE FULTON)
12. Re: Wanted (namdra@xxxxxxxx)
13. NEW 3.54 gear sets on ebay,Model 20 and Dana 30 (Joe)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 08:43:17 -0400
From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] SuperRod and others
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Bunny.
I do understand that nothing I do will make a
difference. But I choose to practice my silly little
hobby in my own way. Too many bullrides in my youth,
probably. But I promise to keep it short from now on.
m.
== ==
Anything you do AMC makes a difference.
Having the car roll into Town while new and
future car nutts scratch their ear makes the difference -
you've presented them with a Totally New Experience -
and you can't do that - even in the back seat of a
Chevy @~~!
The Best Car Memories I have are of Vehicles I knew
nothing of > beginning with a SharK Finned '56
Packard Clipper Super 2dr. which ended up as my
first car @ age 12.
That same encounter provided me a ride in a
White '55 NASH Ambassador V8 Coupe -
with Air Con, as I recall wondering what that
upside down dish pan was doing under the
dash where my feet wanted to go.......
So - after all these years I end up with:
1 - 1966 GTO conv. - Red
1 - 1981 AMC Kammback - Blue
and am looking at : .............
a '55 NASH > to restore.
Tell me that anything we do has no value
or impact for AMC s 'standing' in the Hobby
and I'll advise > there is no 'standing' -
just people picking up GMs or Fords or
AMCs for more reasons that have nothing
to do with their styling or resale value.
When my Kammback pulls more smiles
and gawks @ the local Mobil than does
a New Black Cadillac Escalade on custom
22'' chromies - > something subtle has
been 'Experienced'..........
milnersXcoupe
NEW YORK
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:34:31 +0000
From: "dan whitehead" <freebird_58@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] apathy
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I've been reading Super Rod for a few years (hasn't been out long) and don't
remember ever seeing a readers area to write in. But I have seen
corrections made and if people write in and let them know the error made
(halfway politely) I'm sure there will be something written. I've written
them informing them of the error made and if more from the list do so (only
takes a moment) they might print a correction. The magazine was started by
racing legend Johnny Dianna in his garage and is very informative. One big
drawback is there are large sections on product availability (read
advertising) in a few of the mags during the year.
AMC dialoge, have talked to a body shop just a couple of blocks from my
house and the Javelin will be going in for a face lift. Hopefully to have
it done by Kenosha next year.
Dan Whitehead
Brodhead, WI
'70 BBO Donohue
'82 Spirit GT, daily driver
'69 AMX (rust and all)
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:48:14 -0400
From: Archimedes <Freedom@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] AMC Foundations of a Globe-Trotting Company
To: (Recipient list suppressed)
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http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=480466
The interesting AMC content: "In-Place moved several years ago into a big
warehouse on the foundations of the defunct American Motors factory, where
autoworkers once worked on Ramblers and Pacers."
The article says the company is in Milwaukee; so I would assume they're
referring to the old AMC body plant.
Anybody have photos of the place, maybe before and after?
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-- Marc
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:48:05 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Looking back
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I don't know about "wouldn't be hard", though there are some
alternatives that would surely help. Diesel options, maybe even a
hybrid for the big one. At least it looks like they are doing something
right for a change -- there's a four door Wrangler coming out. Cheap to
build, rugged, and should be popular. If only they'd keep the 4.0L for
it! Maybe they'll offer the 4.7L V-8 as an option. I'm not real happy
with the 3.7L (3.8L?? whatever...) V-6 as the main powerplant. Well,
the four will probably be the base power plant though. I like that a
lot better than that new FWD/4WD "baby" Jeep that's similar to a Ford
Escape.
On August 7, 2006 Jim B wrote:
> I wouldn't mind being put in charge of Jeep. It wouldn't be hard to
cure
> Jeep's woes of poor fuel economy.
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:34:39 -0400
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Apathy
To: amcrelay@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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I agree Kim, but we still need to correct major mistakes. Even some
minor ones, though I wouldn't get to nit picky - I'd let pass a 61
American identified as a 63, or a 71 Javelin identified as a 72-3-4,
but not a 70 Javelin identified as a 71-74, etc. Most of the mistakes
are simply that -- editing to fast or not taking the time to fully
investigate. I've made minor mistakes before, but editing an all AMC
publication and being somewhat knowledgeable about AMCs I don't make
that many. We still need ot correct those unbelievers. If we don't
care, why the hell should they? I don't buy the "if we complain to much
they may stop publishing anything about AMC" theory either. The
complaints let the editors know that AMC people are reading the
articles -- their magazines. Only a small percentage will complain or
comment, so that tells them that there are a lot more AMC people out
there reading the articles. If you have readers that care, you have
articles that sell magazines.
On August 7, 2006 Kim Bueler wrote:
> This may fall on deaf ears, but may I suggest you put your thoughts
in easily read paragraphs? I know this is a small
> thing, but I have a hard time in assimiliating anything that is
longer then 3 lines. No offense really.
>
> On a aeperate note I'm probably preaching to the choir however,
really I'm sorry no one cares outside of us, no one
> cares about AMC, no one cares that they misplaced a name, a word, a
car, a manufaturer, THEY. JUST DON'T. CARE.
>
> You are banging your head against a brick wall. To be honest how many
of your friends understand or even talk about AMC,
> not many I bet - same as I mine, they don't care. Unless you owned
one or had a close relationship to one, no one cares.
> Frankly I know lots of friend who owned owned one once and they still
dont' care.
>
> So what do you do? Keep going to the shows, tell people about AMC you
come across but don't expect AMC to ever become
> the next Chevrolet - ain't gonnna happen.
>
> We are the underdog, no shame, but don't expect the world to hear or
understand, we are the unsung heros.
>
> Regards,
> Kim Bueler '75 Gremlinn X 360 V8
>
>
>
> > As of noon Monday, I have received 28 E-mails of Super
> >
> > I read and hear with frequency complaints as to the
> > "State of AMC" with regards to low values, no
> > "respect", misinformation, etc. This behaviour, or
> > more accurately, lack of behaviour,
> > Now if you will excuse me, I must hide from the black
> > helicopter shadowing me for the AMC Suppression
> > Conspiracy. /;]
> > mike
> >
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 08:44:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Bailey <route66rambler@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] What to do
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Drove my Gremlin to breakfast. Where did your AMC
go?
m.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 8:55:52 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] What to do
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Michael Bailey <route66rambler@xxxxxxxxx>
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Uh, nowhere, Go ahead torture the crippled guy!
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Michael Bailey <route66rambler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Drove my Gremlin to breakfast. Where did your AMC
> go?
> m.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 9:06:10 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Apathy
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
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I agree with Frank. What happens to the poor kid who falls in love with that "Studebaker Lark" and can't find one, does a web search, Humm doesn't match the picture, "What car is that? I want one and can't find it"!
If we don't tell them when they make misstakes, who will? It takes the people that know the cars to point out this things. Somewhere soemone is saying Oh crap we look like idiots to this people. If they aren't and they don't mention the misstake then assume your money is spent better elsewhere.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I agree Kim, but we still need to correct major mistakes. Even some
> minor ones, though I wouldn't get to nit picky - I'd let pass a 61
> American identified as a 63, or a 71 Javelin identified as a 72-3-4,
> but not a 70 Javelin identified as a 71-74, etc. Most of the mistakes
> are simply that -- editing to fast or not taking the time to fully
> investigate. I've made minor mistakes before, but editing an all AMC
> publication and being somewhat knowledgeable about AMCs I don't make
> that many. We still need ot correct those unbelievers. If we don't
> care, why the hell should they? I don't buy the "if we complain to much
> they may stop publishing anything about AMC" theory either. The
> complaints let the editors know that AMC people are reading the
> articles -- their magazines. Only a small percentage will complain or
> comment, so that tells them that there are a lot more AMC people out
> there reading the articles. If you have readers that care, you have
> articles that sell magazines.
>
> On August 7, 2006 Kim Bueler wrote:
>
> > This may fall on deaf ears, but may I suggest you put your thoughts
> in easily read paragraphs? I know this is a small
> > thing, but I have a hard time in assimiliating anything that is
> longer then 3 lines. No offense really.
> >
> > On a aeperate note I'm probably preaching to the choir however,
> really I'm sorry no one cares outside of us, no one
> > cares about AMC, no one cares that they misplaced a name, a word, a
> car, a manufaturer, THEY. JUST DON'T. CARE.
> >
> > You are banging your head against a brick wall. To be honest how many
> of your friends understand or even talk about AMC,
> > not many I bet - same as I mine, they don't care. Unless you owned
> one or had a close relationship to one, no one cares.
> > Frankly I know lots of friend who owned owned one once and they still
> dont' care.
> >
> > So what do you do? Keep going to the shows, tell people about AMC you
> come across but don't expect AMC to ever become
> > the next Chevrolet - ain't gonnna happen.
> >
> > We are the underdog, no shame, but don't expect the world to hear or
> understand, we are the unsung heros.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kim Bueler '75 Gremlinn X 360 V8
> >
> >
> >
> > > As of noon Monday, I have received 28 E-mails of Super
> > >
> > > I read and hear with frequency complaints as to the
> > > "State of AMC" with regards to low values, no
> > > "respect", misinformation, etc. This behaviour, or
> > > more accurately, lack of behaviour,
> > > Now if you will excuse me, I must hide from the black
> > > helicopter shadowing me for the AMC Suppression
> > > Conspiracy. /;]
> > > mike
> > >
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 9:10:50 -0700
From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Looking back
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
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several friends have the 3.7l v6, saddle it with an automatic and they say it gets crap mileage. My wife is starting to look forward to a replacement all wheel drive. I don't think the Liberty is going to meet the mpg needs, which leaves us looking towards the compass, [shudder] or moving on to another line.
--
Mark Price
markprice242ATadelphia.net
Morgantown, WV
---- Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I don't know about "wouldn't be hard", though there are some
> alternatives that would surely help. Diesel options, maybe even a
> hybrid for the big one. At least it looks like they are doing something
> right for a change -- there's a four door Wrangler coming out. Cheap to
> build, rugged, and should be popular. If only they'd keep the 4.0L for
> it! Maybe they'll offer the 4.7L V-8 as an option. I'm not real happy
> with the 3.7L (3.8L?? whatever...) V-6 as the main powerplant. Well,
> the four will probably be the base power plant though. I like that a
> lot better than that new FWD/4WD "baby" Jeep that's similar to a Ford
> Escape.
>
>
> On August 7, 2006 Jim B wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't mind being put in charge of Jeep. It wouldn't be hard to
> cure
> > Jeep's woes of poor fuel economy.
> >
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:16:51 -0500
From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] 369 auctions end today
To: <baadassgremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "AMC List" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Last week fee-bay found it in their hearts to have a 1/2 price sale, that
means, it was only 1/2 price to list most things. Sort of a Rambler
Mentality day, like they have had before like 5 cent listings and 10 cent
listings. So what might cost you 35 cents usual to list was only 17 cents,
which means momma has toll booth change. So I emptied several files, all
sorts of stuff from sheetmetal, emblems, NOS owners manuals and books for
many years, posters, there is stuff in there from mid 50s Nash to 88 Eagle.
And most of it cheap so I can clear out most of this stuff in my garage!
With that in mind, most, no, all 369 auctions will end in 7-10 hours,
depending on your time zone. Go look thru them, the link is below, maybe you
see something you like or want. Thanks should you bid, some of the items I
have are one of a kind in there also!
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZeddiestakes
Eddie Stakes'
Planet Houston AMX
713.464.8825
eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.planethoustonamx.com
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:43:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOE FULTON <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] What To Do?
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Well, you asked:
My 80 Spirit is sitting at the front curb for sale.
No takers, at $500 so I may donate it to charity when
I return from Speed Week in Utah next week. Sad.
The 63 Classic wagon I picked up in Nevada last month
is in paid storage here in town. Gotta bring it home
when there's room for it.
My 77 Gremlin X is still waiting for a carburetor and
for the seats to be done, then I must order carpet for
it.
My 73 Javelin 304/auto which has fresh paint, new
vinyl top, carpet and seats will be for sale later
this month. I'm just not enjoying this car.
I'm picking up a 69 Javelin from the central valley
later this month. It will be for sale locally and
will go on Ebay if it doesn't sell right away.
I'm parting out a 77 AMX 304/auto. Lots of parts are
still available, but crossmember, rear end and motor
plates are spoken for (me).
I need to bring home a 63 440 hardtop I purchased last
month.
There is more, but I won't bore you.
Joe Fulton
Salinas, CA
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:58:58 -0500
From: namdra@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Wanted
To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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You got me there Stu! Of course, I could always convert the steering
wheel to the other side and sell the car to a postal worker.
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:17:49 +0800 amckiwi@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Be carefull what you ask for
> Where i am a drivers seat is on the other side
>
> Cheers
> Stu
> Melbourne
> Australia
> Quoting namdra@xxxxxxxx:
>
> > Does anyone have a good front seat/s (split bench) for a 70 4dr.
> > Ambassador? The drivers side is the one most needed.
> >
> > Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
> > 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
> > JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
> > '06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK,
> CORDOVA, IL
> > AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766
> > _______________________________________________
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>
Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx
8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326
JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!!
'06 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 14-16, 2006 - CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK, CORDOVA, IL
AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:53:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe <jgray_55@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AMC-List] NEW 3.54 gear sets on ebay,Model 20 and Dana 30
To: AMClist <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, BadAssGremlins
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Thought i'd pass this along. I just found them.
Auction ## 120017758300. 3.54 ring/pinion sets for
Model 20 and Dana 30 set also.Has complete
installation kits included. Maybe someone was looking
for these? Thanks,Joe
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